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 #1  
02-28-08, 04:14 PM
darrel
We're slowing rolling out our team site 'portal' in MOSS 2007.

We're an org divided into 10 regions + 1 'HQ'.

So, initially, I set up 11 site collections to separate content and
permissions and the like and go from there.

One of my users is questioning having her specific site within one of these
collections as it's going to be a site that is collecting highly sensitive
data that they don't want even fellow employees to have access to.

Seems that the 'easiest' solution to allay fears is to simply set up
yet-another site collection just for this particular project.

Of course, that opens the gate for the snowball effect and I fear it turning
into our WSS2 server, which is basically 100s of top level sites.

Is there a TECHNICAL argument for not letting people go nuts with many, many
site collections? Or is it mainly just a 'whatever works for you' type of
thing from an organizing information standpoint?

Does this person gain 'security' by having it as a site collection rather
than a subsite? Or is it more of a placebo?

-Darrel
 #2  
02-28-08, 10:03 PM
John Timney \(MVP\)
> We're slowing rolling out our team site 'portal' in MOSS 2007.

Good for you!

> We're an org divided into 10 regions + 1 'HQ'.


Excellent!

> So, initially, I set up 11 site collections to separate content and
> permissions and the like and go from there.


Seems simplistically logical..........I can see why you might have done
that!

> One of my users is questioning having her specific site within one of
> these collections as it's going to be a site that is collecting highly
> sensitive data that they don't want even fellow employees to have access
> to.


MOSS granular security applies across the whole of a MOSS farm - everyone
will have access to any site that SHE as the site admin decides to give
access, everyone else won't - nor will they see search results etc. for
which they have no access. If its that sensitive, it should likely have its
own application, content DB's and site collections and be running on a
dedicated port over SSL and extended to a seperate server.

> Seems that the 'easiest' solution to allay fears is to simply set up
> yet-another site collection just for this particular project.


You could do that - or simply educate her.

> Of course, that opens the gate for the snowball effect and I fear it
> turning into our WSS2 server, which is basically 100s of top level sites.


In self service environments, this is technically what you will face anyway.
Thats OK - you can turn on automatic deletions of unused sites - and
constrain growth based on quotas. Less administration by IT, but overkill
for your problem.

> Is there a TECHNICAL argument for not letting people go nuts with many,
> many site collections? Or is it mainly just a 'whatever works for you'
> type of thing from an organizing information standpoint?


Of course - single content databases should have no more than 10,000 site
collections - so your DB planning takes a new twist! This naturally impacts
your backup and recovery strategy as you have more files to consider and
they should not span backup tapes (for example). More applications consume
resources and impact your architetcure.

> Does this person gain 'security' by having it as a site collection rather
> than a subsite? Or is it more of a placebo?


No real advantages in terms of security -
http://vspug.com/llowevad/archive/20...hitecture.aspx


Regards

John Timney (MVP)
http://www.johntimney.com
http://www.johntimney.com/blog/
 #3  
02-29-08, 02:51 PM
darrel
> MOSS granular security applies across the whole of a MOSS farm - everyone
> will have access to any site that SHE as the site admin decides to give
> access, everyone else won't - nor will they see search results etc. for
> which they have no access. If its that sensitive, it should likely have
> its own application, content DB's and site collections and be running on a
> dedicated port over SSL and extended to a seperate server.


Would it need it's own service provider? SSL + own app suffice?

>> Seems that the 'easiest' solution to allay fears is to simply set up
>> yet-another site collection just for this particular project.

>
> You could do that - or simply educate her.


The problem is that I need educating myself. ;o)

>> Does this person gain 'security' by having it as a site collection rather
>> than a subsite? Or is it more of a placebo?

>
> No real advantages in terms of security -
> [..]


Excellent! I think that answers my question.

At this point, I think this is more of an internal policy issue we need to
address.

Thanks for all that info!

-Darrel
 #4  
02-29-08, 02:58 PM
John Timney \(MVP\)
Could share the SSP, but yes - would require a certificate and its own app
if you went that far.

Regards

John Timney (MVP)
http://www.johntimney.com
http://www.johntimney.com/blog/


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