Unknown program permission

04-19-07, 03:20 PM

When I try to run a program UAC comes up with something like "unknown
program xyz.exe is asking for access to your computer" and when I allow this
the program runs ok. However, I am asked to do this each time I run the
program. Is it possible to make Vista remember that permission has already
been given?

04-19-07, 04:20 PM

Richard Urban

Not at this time, and maybe never.

The likely reason is that if you give a program permanent permission, and
then something gets on your computer that spoofs that program, it would have
the capabilities to access the internet without your consent. You would then
be spreading the infection without knowing it. This spoofing has become an
all to common practice over the past few years and has been used by some
virus's, trojans, worms etc.

04-19-07, 04:37 PM

This assumes that I will be able to recognise something that is spoofing the
program and deny it permission to run. Now how would I know?

"Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS> wrote in message
news:1220
Not at this time, and maybe never.

The likely reason is that if you give a program permanent permission, and
then something gets on your computer that spoofs that program, it would have
the capabilities to access the internet without your consent. You would then
be spreading the infection without knowing it. This spoofing has become an
all to common practice over the past few years and has been used by some
virus's, trojans, worms etc.

04-19-07, 05:00 PM

Richard Urban

I look at it this way. If I am typing a letter in Word, and all of a sudden
another program that ***I*** have not started asks for permission to run - I
say no!

04-19-07, 07:24 PM

hogyu

Sorry to beat this to death. It's an interesting thread, but the logic
escapes me somewhat.

Of course if a program I didn't start asks to run, I'll stop it. But I've
just clicked on WinRAR. It's never a "known" program. I installed it; it's
got registry entries; I use it frequently.

What's the difference between WinRAR and Microsoft Excel? If I'm typing a
letter in Word and Excel starts up without my initiating it, don't I have a
problem? But the UAC won't sound off.

Only some programs I install -- not all -- trigger this Vista behavior.
What's the deciding factor in whether Vista allows a program "permanent
permission"? Richard, you suggested it was Internet access, but WinRAR
doesn't access the Internet.

Thanks.

"Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS> wrote in message
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04-19-07, 09:20 PM

Colin Barnhorst

Programs you install from media, like Office, get a higher level of trust
than programs like WinRAR, which are downloaded via the internet. Vista
remembers where the program came from and programs in the internet zone are
never trusted.

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04-19-07, 11:40 PM

KingsHead

04-20-07, 12:56 AM

Colin Barnhorst

Never tried it, but the file header probably will still contain the source
info. Try it and let us know.

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04-20-07, 01:14 PM

Mick

"Spybot Search & Destroy", and "Spyware Blaster" both require my permission
in Vista to run; "Ad-Aware" does not require my permission in Vista to run.

They are 3 programs downloaded from the Net. And only 2 have the shield on
them.

So, that shoots your arguement down in flames "programs in the internet zone
are never trusted"

Mick Murphy in Australia(QLD)

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#10

04-20-07, 01:52 PM

Alun Harford

Colin Barnhorst wrote:
> Programs you install from media, like Office, get a higher level of
> trust than programs like WinRAR, which are downloaded via the internet.
> Vista remembers where the program came from and programs in the internet
> zone are never trusted.

Eugh. No.
The UAC prompt is brought up because a program wants to run with
elevated security privilages.
Programs like Office are Vista-compatible and don't need elevated
privilages. WinRAR is not (yet) so compatible and it does.

The 'internet zone' and ClickOnce security have nothing to do with this.

#11

04-20-07, 04:13 PM

This does not make sense. The program I installed came from a cd from a
well known software company yet Vista requires me to give permission to run
it each time.

"Colin Barnhorst" <colinbarharst> wrote in message
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Programs you install from media, like Office, get a higher level of trust
than programs like WinRAR, which are downloaded via the internet. Vista
remembers where the program came from and programs in the internet zone are
never trusted.

"hogyu" <moneyko> wrote in message
news:3424
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