The solution would be to remove the offending program, not to force cached
items from memory. In addition to the things you don't want, those memory
cleaning programs also force out things you *do* want and the operating
system must waste time and resources reloading them each time. Memory
"leaks" aren't really leaks at all, they are from badly coded software that
does not release memory when it should or when directed to.

Hi Rick, I have tried to locate the offending program, but with n
success. My only programs I use are StrongDC (which is the p2p clien
which gives it's resources back, and which never takes more than 108M
Ram max), Excel 2007, FolderMatch, FireFox and Outlook. The main proble
of Vista seems to be handling of more then 50000 files each day in 3
folders. I have a collection of my library books (which I scanned), an
each day copy/paste them because I constantly organise them futher. Thi
big move/copy operation is still too much for the Windows Vista OS t
handle properly without memory leaks. I have tried my hobby-occupatio
on other OSse. like Linux and Windows XP, without problems. But Vist
Ultimate does not give the file-cache memory back to the memory pool
Unless I use this SweepRAM util. I have my system examined for all know
virus- and spyware software, but there is absolutely none *ever
detected. This is because I don't run any non-verified or trouble-makin
software on my OS. Thanks anyway for your advice Mr. Rogers, but m
memory-leak case is defiinitively a hopeless one, because I am lookin
for a solution for almost two years now, without a permanent patch o
OS-update. By the way, I always updates autometically via the Window
Update and use Vista Ultimate Service Pack 1, build 6.0.6001

Update: although the memory usage of explorer.exe can be controlled wit
SweepRAM, the GDI, usage is still rising! So after opening/closin
folder windows with each +- 500 files in it, the GDI limit of 10000 (!!
is reached very quickly. I have made a snapshot of Taskinfo just befor
the memory crash. Although Vista did not freeze anymore (very good!!),
saw the OS tried automatically to reclaim it's GDI's by trying to clos
the openened folder Windows (23 windows were open at that time). I
failed (I only see flashing Window-refreshments). But I can (with th
right mouse button) closed then all together by choosing "close all" i
the quick-taskbar. Now the GDI-mem usage is decreased to 6000+ GDI
still too much. Only after I kill and restart explorer.exe (NO reboot !
the GDI-usage has been decreased to an acceptable start level of 23
(and rising again by opening/closing folders). It seems I am still no
happy with this memory leak... I keep everyone informed if ne
developments or solutions (are there still any?) occur

AlbertGr <AlbertGr.3c4avj> wrote:

>
>Update:

Nobody cares.
[..]

To Nonny: if nobody cares, then what is the function of this TechAren
community forum? Is it not about exchange information in the hope tha
someone provides a solution? If it is not, then by all means tell me an
I will delete my account here

In article <AlbertGr.3c4gfe>,
AlbertGr <AlbertGr.3c4gfe> wrote:
>
>To Nonny: if nobody cares, then what is the function of this TechArena

I found your information very interesting. Please don't
pay attention to the children.

That's a very generalised statement to say that nobody is concerned about
it.I do care and am sure that I am not the only one who does so.

"Nonny" <nonnymoose> wrote in message
news:bp1j
AlbertGr <AlbertGr.3c4avj> wrote:

>
>Update:

Nobody cares.
[..]

AlbertGr <AlbertGr.3c4gfe> wrote:

>
>To Nonny: if nobody cares, then what is the function of this TechArena
>community forum? Is it not about exchange information in the hope that
>someone provides a solution? If it is not, then by all means tell me and
>I will delete my account here.

The forum you are using leeches most of its posts from Microsoft
servers and from other news servers around the world. What is
actually posted on that forum is also sent to those servers, where it
makes up a very small percentage of the total traffic in these groups.

The thread you are (and have been) replying to for the past year or
more has old posts that are not available to the community at large
UNLESS one takes the time to look up past posts on Google Groups, or
unless one visits your forum and finds the thread there.

IOW... your post was quite meaningless to anyone who can't see the
past posts in the thread, or even the post you are replying to.

On Sun, 6 Jul 2008 15:32:51 +0530, AlbertGr
<AlbertGr.3c4gfe> wrote:

>
>To Nonny: if nobody cares, then what is the function of this TechArena
>community forum? Is it not about exchange information in the hope that
>someone provides a solution? If it is not, then by all means tell me and
>I will delete my account here.

This so-called "support" group has become a zoo due mainly due one
idiot named Frank and his two like minded idiot pals, Spanky deMonkey
and Bill Yanaire that use it as their toilet. All three buffoons post
under dozens of names and spend their time throwing feces around and
acting stupid and vulgar.

I also over a year ago first posted some technical information
directly in the newsgroup that you would think people would be
interested to know about Vista, but was attacked immediately by the
clueless fanboy gang, simpleton MVP fools and of course Frank who
fancies himself a expert...on everything while proving constantly he's
actually a idiot about everything.

Yes, Vista likely has more than one memory leak. Yes, it is poorly
written, bloated, sluggish and was shipped riddled with bugs. Smarter
posters understand that.

Few people care. They're either too stupid to care thinking Vista is
the best OS ever, (the often repeated claim of the idiot Frank) they
never push their computer and base how "wonderful" Vista is on doing
simplistic things like posting to newsgroups, reading email or surfing
the web or they have some foolish need to worship Microsoft (Frank
again) or just make assholes out of themselves, Frank of course,
Spanky, Yanaire and a small handful of others.

So this place serves as amusement in watching how low these sub human
morons can sink and slapping them around, just because we can.
Anything beyond that is rare.

In answer to Nonny. Okay Nonny, I now understand your answer was because
my information have been scattered incomplete around other forums,
Because of this, I summarize a very brief and easy step by step guide,
to test your own GDI-usage on your OS. You can test your own GDI memory
usage for Windows Vista systems with this test. Decide after doing the
test, if also your OS is vulnerable for the explorer.exe memory-leak.

1) Make sure you have an Administrator account on your OS, and use that
for the test (this prevents information maybe not shown in Taskmanager)
2) Open TasManager programm, for example with with 'CTRL-SHIFT-ESC'
shortcut keys
3) In View menu: select USER-objects and GDI objects to be shown
4) Locate the explorer.exe process. Write down the amount number of GDI
objects it uses (see the GDI-column). It should start with a value of
around 250 in the beginning (after a reboot).
5) Create a new folder on your data drive. For example, make a folder
called "Test"
6) Create at least 20 sub-folders in the Test folder. Call them 1,2,3
-...20 or whatever you like.
7) In each folder, copy at least 100 files (can be random files, big or
small, does not matter)
8) Write down the GDI usage of the explorer.exe process.
9) Now for proving the memory leak, apply the next two steps.
10) Open the 20 Test-folders. Don't close them yet !
11) Close the 20 folders.
12) Write down the GDI usage again. See what I mean? They have
increased.
13) Each time you repeat step 10 en step 11, the GDI-memory value will
increase. Until they reach the value 10000, after which your OS will
cripple (I have a made a screenshot of that last stage).

AlbertGr <AlbertGr.3c4x3d> wrote:

>
>In answer to Nonny. Okay Nonny, I now understand your answer was because
>my information have been scattered incomplete around other forums,
>Because of this, I summarize a very brief and easy step by step guide,
>to test your own GDI-usage on your OS. You can test your own GDI memory
>usage for Windows Vista systems with this test. Decide after doing the
>test, if also your OS is vulnerable for the explorer.exe memory-leak.

Thanks, but maybe someone else can. I really am not interested :-)
[..]

The post of Mr. Ed Bott on http://blogs.zdnet.com/Bott/?p=269 looks ver
promising. He describes exactly the same probs and has a real smart fi
for it. The interactive desktop heap size could be the cause for th
leak indeed

AlbertGr wrote:
> The post of Mr. Ed Bott on [..] looks very
> promising. He describes exactly the same probs and has a real smart fix
> for it. The interactive desktop heap size could be the cause for the
> leak indeed.
>
Good find. That's been a problem going all the way back to NT4.

I just discovered that if you have an ATI-card, and right-click on th
desktop, the GDI-usage of explorer.exe each time increases (with 1)
and it's resources won't be given back. I also found a solution
disable displaying the ATI-Control menu -> se
http://blogulate.com/content/how-to-...enu-in-windows
how to do that. When you have disabled it, no GDI-memory is leaked fro
explorer.exe when right-clicking

This leak patch is not the main leak I have at the moment, but ever
bit helps

Cya for now, Alber

This is it. The solution for my problem. Found it while cliking this
link:
http://www.techspot.com/news/27493-V...ing-files.html.
Now the memory leak thread can be closed. Thank you very much. Cheers!