joel406 <joel406.2zmmg5> wrote in news:joel406.2zmmg5
@no-mx.forums.net:

> People that have problems with Vista are either.
>
> A. Running outdated hardware that probably had a hard time running XP.
>
> B. Computer illiterates who think computers should run themselves.

To address point B....Of course. That is what _everyone_ wants. A PC that
runs smoothly all the time, installs and runs every program with ease,
never suffers a hardware failure, etc. I myself know that that is not
possible.

Back in the day, in order to have a PC, you had to know how it worked to
be able to maintain it. You would build them youself from mail order
component house to save 1/2 of the cost of buying a fully built system.
Keyboard were $40 or $50 and RAM back in the 2/386 days was $60/meg. So
you knew how everything worked and was easily fixable. If you had a PC,
you were a geek.

With the PC & Internet explosion, all of that changed when Mom & Dad
wanted one, Uncle Bob & Aunt Lucy too. People that didn't have an
technical interest in computers suddenly wanted to use them. They didn't
want to learn to fix them, or install an OS, they just wanted to turn it
on and use it, and have it worked. All the time. Just like your car. You
want your car to work, all the time. You're cell phone, anything.

The MS advertising campaign's want to push that image, obviously, and
those people that aren't 'geeks', or into 'the scene' see the 'WOW!'
commercials, and claims of being the best OS ever, much more secure, new
features, a beautiful new UI. I knows lots of people that still haven't
yet owned their own PC.

So what will they expect if they by their first PC with pre-installed
Vista, from an OEM that loaded all their crap on it ? They will expect it
to work. They have no experience with owning a PC, maybe they use one at
work, but that might not mean anything more than sending e-mail or typing
Word documents for some people. Work has an IT department.

So I guess my point is that you can't fault someone that is not computer
saavy for expecting it to just work, all the time.

Jerry Atricks wrote:
> "Alias" <iamalias> wrote in message
> news:3g12
>
> Yea, don't worry about the SMALL Linux/Ubuntu numbers. Ubuntu still ISN'T
> good for you !!!!
>

Heaven forbid one would have an OS without WPA and WGA. Heaven forbid
one would have an OS that isn't nearly as virus or malware prone as
Windows. Heaven forbid ...

Jerry Atricks wrote:
> "Alias" <iamalias> wrote in message
> news:qt42
>
> The fact that you tell everyone about Ubuntu doesn't mean it's good for you.
> It isn't. Stay away. Far away from Linux/Ubuntu.

Why, pray tell, is Ubuntu bad for you? This should be good.

Frank wrote:
> Alias wrote:
>> Lying, like you do constantly, is also not a good thing, but you
> continue doing it.
> Frank

Once again Frankie boy cannot address the issues raised so he trots out
a phony straw man in a lame attempt to cover up his inadequacies.

Frank wrote:
> Alias wrote:
>> Nor does it mean it's a bad thing, you moron.

Only morons like you don't know it's a bad thing.

>
> Many more people drink sodas
>> and smoke cigarettes than there are Windows users but those numbers do
>> not indicate that sodas and cigarettes are good for you.
>
> Nor is lying, like you constantly do, a good thing.
> Frank

I don't lie. You do. All the time.

Alias wrote:

> Frank wrote:
>>
> Once again Frankie boy cannot address the issues raised so he trots out
> a phony straw man in a lame attempt to cover up his inadequacies.
>

More lies mr liar?
So what's new?
Frank

glsj.dw wrote:

> Please mr or miss idiot, prove to me vista is good first.
>


Who are you and why are you here?
Frank

On Tue, 06 Nov 2007 16:18:25 -0800, Frank <fb> wrote:

>Alias wrote:
>>More lies mr liar?
>So what's new?
>Frank

Frank calling somebody else a liar. Too funny!

On Tue, 06 Nov 2007 16:19:24 -0800, Frank <fb> wrote:

>glsj.dw wrote:
>
>> Please mr or miss idiot, prove to me vista is good first.
>>
>>Who are you and why are you here?
>Frank

Exactly what I was thinking about everyone's favorite village idiot.
Why are YOU here Frank?

Frank wrote:
> Alias wrote:
>> More lies mr liar?
> So what's new?
> Frank

Polly want a cracker?

Alias wrote:

> Frank wrote:
>>
> Only morons like you don't know it's a bad thing.
>>
> I don't lie. You do. All the time.
>

Who exactly do you think, other than yourself, that you are fooling with
your denials?
No one here pal. We all know you are lair, mr liar.
You did it to yourself so live with it, mr liar.
Frank

Adam Albright wrote:
> On Tue, 06 Nov 2007 16:19:24 -0800, Frank <fb> wrote:
>
>> glsj.dw wrote:
>>
>>> Please mr or miss idiot, prove to me vista is good first.
>>>
>>
>> Who are you and why are you here?
>> Frank
>
> Exactly what I was thinking about everyone's favorite village idiot.
> Why are YOU here Frank?
>

Good question. He certainly isn't here to help anyone with any Vista
problems.

Frank wrote:

> glsj.dw wrote:
>
>> Please mr or miss idiot, prove to me vista is good first.
>>
>> Who are you and why are you here?
> Frank

He's just checking on how you're making out with recovering from your brain
injury. Looks like you're still a long way from a full recovery.

Cheers.

Adam Albright wrote:

> On Tue, 06 Nov 2007 16:19:24 -0800, Frank <fb> wrote:
>>
>
> Exactly what I was thinking about everyone's favorite village idiot.
> Why are YOU here Frank?
>

Oh that's easy...to make little pigs like you squeal...hahaha...lol!
Squeal for us all mr pig...lol!
Frank

Alias wrote:

> Adam Albright wrote:
>> Good question. He certainly isn't here to help anyone with any Vista
> problems.
>

If nothing else to flush out and point out lying son's of bitch*s like
you...hahaha...lol...which I'm very good at doing...mr liar!
Frank