Frank wrote:
> Alias wrote:
>
> hehehe...now I'm desperate...and can't stop the lying...what a weak
> POS I am.
> Frank

You said, Frank.

=?Utf-8?B?SmFuSg==?= <JanJ> wrote in
news:BB606FF4-57CD-47AC-B3A3-F80652452E5B:

> "Mang Chai Lyn" wrote:
>> This is remarkably interesting information! Can you substantiate it,
> or at least tell us what companies' IT departments have been given
> such orders?
>
> It would also be of great interest to know where you found the
> professional advice on avoiding Vista, you mentioned something about
> professionals from all fields in an earlier post.
>
> Jan

Here's one:

http://vista.blorge.com/2007/03/16/u...ies-ban-vista/

DanS;506238 Wrote:
> Here's one:
>
> 'US Government Agencies ban Vista - VISTA.BLORGE.com'
> ([..])


You conveniently "forgot" to mention the last paragraph of that
article:

>
> I am not saying Linux is better or worse than Vista but I think we can
> all agree that Windows XP and Vista are easier to use than Linux ever
> will be. Eventually, Vista will become the standard, not the exception.
> *It took around two years for Windows XP to be adopted by most
> businesses and government agencies*. It is likely the same will be true
> for Vista though it may take longer than XP did to be adopted widely.
>

Yes, not all major organizations or government agencies have adopted
Vista yet, but Vista has only been around for about a year now. Give it
time, and Vista will be the OS of choice for nearly everyone.

I must doubt anybody's claim that a new OS is crap simply because the
whole world doesn't adopt it right away. It takes some companies years
to switch from one OS to another.

One of the major banks in my country has only just now switched from
Windows NT 4.0 to Windows XP (actually, a little over 1 year ago) for
all their branch terminals, for pity's sake!

The decision to take that long to switch is influenced by a number of
factors, of which I think the most important are cost, compatibility,
ease of deployment, security and user training.

Slow uptake by major players doesn't make it crap.

"glsj.dw" wrote:

> Please mr or miss idiot, prove to me vista is good first.

If you like to know what Windows Vista can and can't do for you, I suggest
you take a class or course, or just give it a sincere try for yourself. I'm
sorry to say, but proving or disproving Vista's qualities is way beyond the
scope of a newsgroup posting. It's also something you have to put work into
figuring out yourself.

If you would be so kind to provide sources for the rather sensational claims
that have been presented in this thread, instead of questioning my gender and
intellectual capacities, it would be much appreciated.

Jan

On Wed, 07 Nov 2007 03:18:18 -0500, Adam Arrested Development Albright
<YesHeIsArrested> wrote:

>Adam Albright wrote:
>
><You must be hurt Albright, just as long as you see it is all that
>counts dummy. You see the beauty of it all is that I can get away with
>it, while you sit there like an embicle destroying your name with your
>lunacy, with 98% of the NG having killfiled you, with fools in your camp
>like Nostop, Alais, Dan $hithead.>

More proof you're nothing but a fu*cking moron. I've said many times
that Adam is an alias I use when posting to newsgroups and isn't my
real name you clueless pile of horse sh*t.

"The poster formerly known as 'The Poster" wrote:

> No, not quite, although I don't work for a large business... ;)
>
> Actually we are doing what JJ said, waiting as long as we can before
> deploying vista. We certainly are not allowed to deploy it yet.

That I find less hard to believe, and I'll take your word for it.

There is nothing spectacular about companies being careful when adopting a
new OS, they have to take both legacy software and new hard- and software
investments into account first.

What I'm more sceptic about, and would like to see some sources on, is Mai
Chai Lyn's sensational claims about professionals in all fields advising
against deploying Vista because of the supposed lack of quality of this new
OS (not financial and investment considerations and so on).

Jan

Alias wrote:

> Frank wrote:
>>
> You said, Frank.
>

You've lost the battle haven't you and now you're really desperate. What
a loser you've become or at least we now know exactly what a real loser
you are.
Being unable come up with your own words is a real sign of weakness and
desperation.
You're nothing but a lying loser and a real piece of sh*t. I've been
right about you all along haven't I. You are hiding from the US
authorities aren't you. You are nothing but an atheist, a thief, a cheat
and liar and now a criminal.
What crimes are you wanted for? What is your real name? How long have
you been on the lamb? Turn yourself in right away, you'll be glad you did.
Frank

"Not Me" wrote:

> Well, General Motors for one.
> And as I understand it, the US Congressional IT support group has also told
> all Congressmen that Vista won't be supported until 2009.

Thank you for that information. I couldn't find the sources myself by web
searching, would you be so kind to point me in the right direction?

Also, do you know whether General Motors has given up on Vista altogether,
or have they just delayed deployment like the Congressional IT department you
mentioned? I don't find this nearly as remarkable as the original claims in
this thread about companies and IT pros binning Vista permanently, though.

> Oh, yeah, I do IT too, and I recommend against it! LOL

Would you be so kind to tell us your grounds?

Jan

Adam Albright wrote:
>
> More proof you're nothing but a fu*cking moron. I've said many times
> that Adam is an alias I use when posting to newsgroups and isn't my
> real name you clueless pile of horse sh*t.
>

<Well, *Adam* your sorry self and snake on down the road -- savage,
because all you do is babble. It doesn't make a difference what name you
post under. A savage can be spotted a mile away, because savages can't
change their savage spots.>

<I have read most of your posts here recently, and I know you are lying
about it. You post everything up in this NG but a post about predicting
your death, from your health insurance to your wife. You are a savage
and a *clown* --- Arrested Development.>

Frank wrote:
> Alias wrote:
>> You've lost the battle haven't you and now you're really desperate.

No, I haven't and no I'm not.

> What
> a loser you've become or at least we now know exactly what a real loser
> you are.

You know nothing.

> Being unable come up with your own words is a real sign of weakness and
> desperation.

I come up with my own words all the time.

> You're nothing but a lying loser and a real piece of sh*t. I've been
> right about you all along haven't I.

No, you've never been right about me.

> You are hiding from the US
> authorities aren't you.

That's impossible. I explained it to you but you are obviously too dense
to understand.

> You are nothing but an atheist, a thief, a cheat
> and liar and now a criminal.

You just committed libel which is against the law. Do you care? Thought not.

> What crimes are you wanted for?

None.

>What is your real name?

None of your business, Frank, or whatever your real name is.

> How long have
> you been on the lamb?

Sorry, but lambs don't turn me on. Are you referring to your significant
other?

> Turn yourself in right away, you'll be glad you did.
> Frank

There's nothing for me to turn myself in for and you are just making up
lies left and right. Explain how I just got my passport renewed if I am
wanted by the law. This should be good.

JanJ;506340 Wrote:
> That I find less hard to believe, and I'll take your word for it.
>
> There is nothing spectacular about companies being careful when
> adopting a new OS, they have to take both legacy software and new hard-
> and software investments into account first.
>
> What I'm more sceptic about, and would like to see some sources on, is
> Mai Chai Lyn's sensational claims about professionals in all fields
> advising against deploying Vista because of the supposed lack of quality
> of this new OS (not financial and investment considerations and so on).

Here's my 2c worth:

I've been a professional in my field for close on 20 years now, and
this is my recomendation: Larger corporations should wait, as they
always have with new OS releases, and should use their time to properly
gauge the impact that the change will have on productivity. Deploying a
new OS on even a modest network of 20 or so PCs is a daunting task,
because we have to deal with more than just installing a new OS and
software. There's the cost involved of the actual deployment,
implementing network policies, updated hardware. and user training. If
you factor in all those things, the costs increase exponentially with
large networks.

Home users that have only one PC, or perhaps a small network of 2 or 3
PCs should change to Vista because it does have more efficient security
than XP, and provides a greater level of control over what happens on
those PCs. Home users that do not have dedicated IT staff to implement
security policies or maintain rock-solid firewalls are prime
distribution points for viruses and malware. Vista Security aims to
reduce that threat.

I'm not sure on which forum I mentioned it, but I've stated clearly
that while Vista's security and stability is a vast improvement over
that of XP, it's not enough. But it IS better than its ever been. If
anyone here is from Microsoft, and is working on Windows Seven, then
make the note that I'd like to see even more stringent security measures
implemented in Windows Seven.

Perhaps a user account similar to the current Vista "Limited User" that
requires a Admin password in UAC prompts, but where even options such as
"Run As Administrator" cannot be accessed without logging off and
logging back on AS an administrator.

"DanS" wrote:

> Here's one:
>
> [..]
>

Thank you for that link, DanS.

Seemingly, some federal agencies have decided not to deploy Vista because of
cost, compatibility and hardware concerns. This fact I find no reason to
question. But it certainly doesn't back up Mai Chai Lyn's opinions about
Vista not getting deployed on the reason of being an inferior OS. Even the
author of the article appears to think Vista will become the standard in a
few years.

Jan

Alias wrote:
[..]
>> Sorry, but lambs don't turn me on. Are you referring to your significant
> other?
>> There's nothing for me to turn myself in for and you are just making up
> lies left and right. Explain how I just got my passport renewed if I am
> wanted by the law. This should be good.
>

<You continue to destroy yourself.>

Alias wrote:

[..]
>> Sorry, but lambs don't turn me on. Are you referring to your significant
> other?
>>
> There's nothing for me to turn myself in for and you are just making up
> lies left and right. Explain how I just got my passport renewed if I am
> wanted by the law. This should be good.

Turn yourself in mr liar. You can run but you can't hide forever...the
long arm of the law will get you eventually, mr liar.
Frank

Frank wrote:
> Alias wrote:
>> Turn yourself in mr liar. You can run but you can't hide forever...the
> long arm of the law will get you eventually, mr liar.
> Frank

The pathetic thing is that Frank thinks he's being cute and clever when
all he's doing is revealing how stupid he is.