"Alias" <iamalias> wrote in message
news:rtc2
> Bill Yanaire wrote:
>
> Nothing.
>> Really? I hadn't noticed.
>

Yea, right. The number of posts are down by 50% because Adam is missing and
either with your Sheep or in jail.


>> Did you hide him on your Sheep farm?
>
> That's your and Frank's fantasy, not mine. Those who use Windows are
> sheep. Yaknow, like you.
>
> Alias

Wrong. Those who use Windows are smart. Those who use Ubuntu are idiots.

"Alias" <iamalias> wrote in message
news:rtc1
> Doggy Style wrote:
> How about these things?:
>
> What you can do with Ubuntu:
>
> Worry about:
> DRM,
> Viruses,
> Root kits,
> Spyware,
> and
> Malware.
>
> Alias

Upyurbuttooo is a pice af crap toy os. It will never make it in the real
world. Just like you loser.

Alias wrote:

----------------------------------------

You're known lying linux troll. You're also an admitted liar, thief,
spammer and a bigoted atheist asshole loser.
No tells us why anyone in their right mind would want to be associated
with anything you recommend, huh?
Frank

Alias wrote:
[..]

Canuck57 wrote:
> "Cork Soaker" <Thunderbird> wrote in message
> news:nln1
>> Victor wrote:
>>
>>> Reasons to buy Vista:
>>>
>>> blah blah blah
>> Oh well, if it's that good, send me the Live CD and I'll try it before I
>> install it and completely fuck my system beyond repair. Thanks.
>
> Go soak another cork. I have never heard of a Linux Live-CD changing a hard
> drive unless some drunk clicks install or format.
>

DID I SAY IT DID?????

"Bill Yanaire" <bill> wrote in message
news:4609

>> Burn CDs.
>
> Probably a pain in the ass with Ubuntu

Not at all. Sony/BMG rootkit does not work. In fact the safest way to copy
one or rip it is with a Linux, Ubuntu will do just fine.

>> Rip CDs.
>
> Another pain in the ass with Ubuntu

See above.

>> Listen to music.
>
> Try getting the right CODECs. Some sites work, some don't. More sites
> with with Windows.

Only for the MS-DRM proprietary stuff. No one storys in proprietary formats
if they want to play it in 5 years or on multiple devices (fair use).

In fact, with Ubuntu you can use a new open format not available to
Microsoft, OOG.

>> Watch vidoes/DVDs.
>
> Maybe

Works for me.

>> Scan and print.
>
> If your printer comes with drivers for Ubuntu. Otherwise you are SCREWED.

My HP all in one works.

>> Spreadsheets.
>
> You can add a few numbers. If you need to do complicated calculations,
> use Excel.

You haven't used Open Office for quite some time.

>> Presentations
>
> Who would want to present Ubuntu to anyone? Their software is crippled.

Actaully, I like it better.

>> Newsgroups.
>
> Not very good. Try getting decent help. Takes long time.

pan does a better job intenting quoted text than does Outlook Express or
mail. In fact, they still haven't fixed that in Vista last I checked. That
bug has been in Express/mail since W2000....

>> HTML editing.
>
> Basic HTML editing.

You are kidding right? For simple pages, Open Office can save HTML. For
more complex work I like Kompozer. Works great, even with IE... Best part
about Komposer, is it even works on XP (and Vista I suspect).

>> Games like Chess, Tetris, all kinds of solitaire, etc.
>
> If you want to play real games, use Windows

Yea, GNU/Chess versus Titans... LOL. I will give you 100:1 odds on which
one wins when fully set to best game. Takers?

>> Make videos.
>
> Primitive capabilities. For real work, use Windows.

Don't see why not. In fact MythTV also is a nice PVR without all that DRM
to fight with.

>> Send and receive a fax.
>
> Your multifunction printer handles this. Ubuntu is crippled.

Last I checked only the expensive Vista Ultimate is fax available. In fact
with Vista OEM version you MUST pay extra to get fax. Included with Linux
at no extra charge but you may have to select the package.

>> Take screenshots.
>
> Oh yea, who needs a screenshot of Ubuntu - Nobody.

In X-Windows, we were taking screen shots before Bill Gates had his first
copy of CP/M derived MS-DOS/PC-DOS running. Consider the feature anotehr
thing Microsoft borrowed from UNIX.


>> Create .PDF files.
>
> Maybe.

Trivial, not maybe. I do it routinely. But this is really a function of
Open Office for the most part although other apps support it to. So if you
load Open Office onto your XP/Vista you too can use Open Office to create
PDF files from MS-Office 2003 type docs.

>> Create and use a data base.
>
> Simple database. For BEEFIER database use a Windows solution.

Which one, MySQL or PostgreSQL?

Beefier DB in MS-Windows? That is why virtually EVERY fortune 1000 company
uses Linux/UNIX with Oracle for scalable ERP and side steps MS-SQL like
herpes?

>> Instant messaging with over 10 different programs in one including
>> Windows Live Messenger.
>> IRC.
>> Bluetooth.
>>
>
> BFD. This is mostly for kids. Once the kids see how crippled Ubuntu is
> they will ditch Ubuntu and run to Windows.

Might be, but Linux has a variety of options here. Pick which one you like.
Many even work with multiple sources so you only need one client app.

>> and much more!
>
> Much more - Headaches.

Headaches avoided.

>> What you can't do with Ubuntu:
>>
> ANYTHING WORTHWHILE

Make Bill Gates another billion, or keep his a$$ kissers happy.

Cork Soaker <Thunderbird> wrote in news:t3aii5-l6n.ln1
@quarkbomb.dyndns.org:

> Victor wrote:
>
>> Reasons to buy Vista:
>>
>> blah blah blah
>
> Oh well, if it's that good, send me the Live CD and I'll try it before
I
> install it and completely fuck my system beyond repair. Thanks.

Well....MS hasn't thought that making a LiveCD would be a good idea.

Of course, it isn't. If people cuold try-before-they-buy, maybe noone
would buy.

Someone though took the time to create a Vista LiveCD, and it's only 125
mB!!

I'm not going to try it, you gonna try it ? Nope, I'm not gonna try it,
you try it....let's get ____________ he'll try anyting !!

Pick a d/l site, if you dare.........

http://www.google.com/search?ie=UTF-...vclient&gfns=1
&q=windows+vista+live+cd

Yep, I think it's clear that Microsoft got shafted by Hollywood over this DRM
deal. To the cost of many thousands of hours of coding work on what could
have been a great OS, had it been designed with performance instead of DRM as
the prime consideration.

Still I'm relieved that DRM has been so forcefully rejected by the
computer-buying public, after all the future of a DRM-laced computer industry
would have been a bleak one indeed.

On the same subject, we were discussing the issue of whether DVD encryption
and regionalization is at least partly responsible for the high levels of
piracy.

In the days of vinyl and VHS, there was an advantage in paying, in that you
got a better-quality product than by pirating. Now, the reverse is true. Pay,
and you get an inferior product, thanks to DRM.

The simple fact is, the DVD video format has very poor reliability.
Sticking, jumping, sudden restarts, inability to fast-forward, all are
extremely common. Many people still prefer VHS to DVD for this very reason,
the frequent failed playback of DVD being far more of an annoyance than poor
picture quality of VHS.

DivX/XviD copies on the other hand seldom suffer these annoying glitches. In
almost every way they are technically superior to the DRM-protected formats.
Even when burned to a data DVD, the DivX version is largely free from the
annoyances of the DVD-video version. Not only does it work with near-100%
reliability, it also gives a far better file-size to picture-quality ratio.

Now, convincing people that they have a moral responsibility to pay for what
they use is one thing, BUT convincing them to pay for a product that is in
every way inferior to the 'free' alternative is quite another. Piracy? No
wonder!

In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Cork Soaker
<Thunderbird>
wrote
on Mon, 16 Jun 2008 21:48:53 +0100
<l60ji5-ad5.ln1>:
> Canuck57 wrote:
>
> DID I SAY IT DID?????

Somebody can't read. ;-) Granted, a previous poster could have
been a little clearer regarding a (non-existent) Vista live CD.

In comp.os.linux.advocacy, DanS
<t.h.i.s.n.t.h.a.t>
wrote
on 16 Jun 2008 21:18:45 GMT
<Xns9ABFAFB07B837thisnthatadelphianet>:
> Cork Soaker <Thunderbird> wrote in news:t3aii5-l6n.ln1
> @quarkbomb.dyndns.org:
>
>> Victor wrote:
>>
>>> Reasons to buy Vista:
>>>
>>> blah blah blah
>>
>> Oh well, if it's that good, send me the Live CD and I'll try it before
>> I install it and completely fuck my system beyond repair. Thanks.
>
> Well....MS hasn't thought that making a LiveCD would be a good idea.

I could see them making a 3-day demo CD. The technology is
already available for songs; after 3 days the CD oxidizes
to the point of unreadability. A time bomb could also be
put in the OS itself; this time bomb would render an ISO
image useless after 3-4 days unless a user resets the clock.

>
> Of course, it isn't. If people cuold try-before-they-buy, maybe noone
> would buy.

Maybe.

>
> Someone though took the time to create a Vista LiveCD,
> and it's only 125 mB!!

Impressive. I thought 12.5 GB would be more like it? :-)
[..]

The Gutmann article is pure non-sense!
Gutmann's claims are baseless...he never
even ran Windows Vista!

Read the truth!

Peter Gutmann turns to smear tactics with help from PCWorld NZ
http://blogs.zdnet.com/Ou/?p=718

Claim that Vista DRM causes full CPU load and global warming debunked!
http://blogs.zdnet.com/Ou/?p=673&tag=rbxccnbzd1

Busting the FUD about Vista's DRM
http://blogs.zdnet.com/Bott/?p=284

Everything you've read about Vista DRM is wrong (Part 1)
http://blogs.zdnet.com/Bott/?p=299

Everything you've read about Vista DRM is wrong (Part 2)
http://blogs.zdnet.com/Bott/?p=304&tag=rbxccnbzd1

Everything you've read about Vista DRM is wrong (Part 3)
http://blogs.zdnet.com/Bott/?p=309&tag=rbxccnbzd1

On Jun 16, 2:58 pm, "ness...@wigner.berkeley.edu"
<ness> wrote:
[..]
>>
>
> Thanks for the Gutmann reference. I had seen some other stuff of his,
> and it's absolutely devastating.   I wonder if Windows 7 will scale
> back on the DRM, or make it worse.  Looks like a lot of the trouble
> with Vista is due to the DRM.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

The Gutmann article is pure non-sense!
Gutmann's claims are baseless...he never
even ran Windows Vista!

Read the truth!

Peter Gutmann turns to smear tactics with help from PCWorld NZ
http://blogs.zdnet.com/Ou/?p=718

Claim that Vista DRM causes full CPU load and global warming debunked!
http://blogs.zdnet.com/Ou/?p=673&tag=rbxccnbzd1

Busting the FUD about Vista's DRM
http://blogs.zdnet.com/Bott/?p=284

Everything you've read about Vista DRM is wrong (Part 1)
http://blogs.zdnet.com/Bott/?p=299

Everything you've read about Vista DRM is wrong (Part 2)
http://blogs.zdnet.com/Bott/?p=304&tag=rbxccnbzd1

Everything you've read about Vista DRM is wrong (Part 3)
http://blogs.zdnet.com/Bott/?p=309&tag=rbxccnbzd1

Alias wrote:
> Victor wrote:
>
> That "reputation" is FUD. Ubuntu is very user friendly.
>
> Alias

You know what's funny though.
2 of the top 10 compiz themes are Vista ... ubuntu users want Vista,
just don't wanna pay !
They even have tons of Vista wallpaper.
uVistu !

In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Carey Frisch [MVP]
<cnfrisch>
wrote
on Mon, 16 Jun 2008 18:12:11 -0500
<eO6FpZA0IHA.4004>:
[..]
>
> Everything you've read about Vista DRM is wrong (Part 1)
> [..]
>
> Everything you've read about Vista DRM is wrong (Part 2)
> [..]
>
> Everything you've read about Vista DRM is wrong (Part 3)
> [..]
>

It matters little. Vista is the Next Generation of Windows,
and will of course ultimately be accepted, if Windows 7
doesn't outshine it first. The adoption rate appears to
be about 5-7 years from its inception in early 2007 -- which
is slower than XP, but not that much slower.

Linux? Apart from the OSS community, it's hard to say
whether it will ever gain full acceptance on the desktop as
an equal, though its placement in the server realm is well
entrenched (though not absolute; Windows has been making a
fair amount of headway, though one wonders whether most of
it is because of deals with such as goDaddy) and there may
be a number of devices using it internally. Personally,
I think Linux desktops have been usable since the early
2000's, but then I'm an old Unix head.

That is one of Linux's problems, in fact; Windows is huge
and noisy, Linux small and almost invisible. Great for
operations, terrible for ad revenue; as someone once
stated, bad press is better than no press at all.

Windows gets a lot of press. Linux gets some, but I'm
not sure the average man-on-the-street will ever know
the ins and outs of Linux distros. But tell him about
Windows and he'll instantly know about ctrl-alt-delete
"fixing" problems, and he'll probably know a fair amount
about antiviral software as well.

One would hope for more sophistication but I suspect most
individuals think of the Internet as a more sophisticated
form of television, with the computer being the device to
display it.

There are disturbing parallels. The radio system at
one point was much like Usenet, but now is dominated
by syndication. The TV broadcast network is even worse.
Is the free Internet doomed? Or will the free part simply
be marginalized, with the bulk of the bandwidth going for
next years' TV shows and software specials?

Also, YouTube hasn't been the profit center Google anticipated;
YouTube is now also embroiled in at least one, possibly
several, copyright lawsuits.

Verizon has already clamped off the alt.* hierarchy,
pruning a branch to eliminate a diseased flower (probably
alt.binaries.erotica.bestiality.hamster.duct.tape and
other such, but I'd have to look). Or, perhaps more aptly,
taking a sledgehammer to attack a colony of moths or wasps.

Can't be too careful, I guess, with all that "pirated"
and offensive material going around -- some of which
might include opinions on certain regions wishing for
independence and/or actions by oppressive regimes, and
others including "stolen" TV shows and software.

Welcome to the New World Order.

<Quote>
ZDNet’s George Ou Exposed as Ignorant Microsoft Shill (Zoon!)

The assault on reason isn’t just a political phenomenon. Microsoft has
long been developing its own cast of apologists who have eked out full
time careers in the field of sputtering out ignorant, unfounded claims
with such insistence and volume that the undecided simply have no
alternative but to line up and applaud their seemingly convincing
rhetoric. Among them is George Ou, who unsurprisingly blogs for CNET’s
ZDNet branded website.

ZDNet desperately needs ad revenue, and the best way to drive that is
to publish sensationalist headlines that catch the attention of
throngs of Diggers. It doesn’t matter that Digg users represent an
unattractive demographic from a real marketing perspective; traffic is
traffic for web click sites.

Take Microsoft’s need for constant, high pitched spin to detract from
its grave mistakes and regular failures and combine it with ZDNet’s
unapologetically desperate brand of sensational headline writing, and
you have fertile ground for arrogant morons ready and willing to say
anything and everything. High up on the moron pile is George Ou, a
blogger billed as a “Technical Director of ZDNet.”
</Quote>

http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2007/0...ft-shill-zoon/