Bill Yanaire wrote:
[..]
>
> Much more - Headaches.
>> ANYTHING WORTHWHILE
>
> I think I covered most everything.
>>

You covered *nothing*. See Canuck57's post.

Alias

upyurbuttoo wrote:
> "Alias" <iamalias> wrote in message
> news:rtc1
>
> Upyurbuttooo is a pice af crap toy os. It will never make it in the real
> world. Just like you loser.
>
Wow, are you always so adroit in your cute and clever refutations?

Alias

Bill Yanaire wrote:
> "Alias" <iamalias> wrote in message
> news:rtc2
>
> Yea, right. The number of posts are down by 50% because Adam is missing and
> either with your Sheep or in jail.

I still didn't notice.

>>>> Did you hide him on your Sheep farm?
>> That's your and Frank's fantasy, not mine. Those who use Windows are
>> sheep. Yaknow, like you.
>>
>> Alias
>
> Wrong. Those who use Windows are smart. Those who use Ubuntu are idiots.

Everyone has an opinion. It's too bad for you that yours is ill informed
at best.

Alias

* Carey Frisch [MVP] peremptorily fired off this memo:

> The Gutmann article is pure non-sense!
> Gutmann's claims are baseless...he never
> even ran Windows Vista!
>
> Read the truth!
>
> Peter Gutmann turns to smear tactics with help from PCWorld NZ
> [..]
>
> Claim that Vista DRM causes full CPU load and global warming debunked!
> [..]

This is George Ou. Why would one believe him?

> Busting the FUD about Vista's DRM
> [..]

Don't know about that guy yet.

> --
> Carey Frisch
> Microsoft MVP
> Windows Desktop Experience -
> Windows Vista Enthusiast

Love! Is a many splintered thing!

Canuck57 wrote:
>
> In fact, with Ubuntu you can use a new open format not available to
> Microsoft, OOG.
>

I'm going to guess you meant OGG, which is easily available in Windows.

You really should check on these things before you spout off BS.

Oh wait, that is what you do, carry on.

Carey Frisch [MVP] schreef:
[..]
>
> Everything you've read about Vista DRM is wrong (Part 1)
> [..]
>
> Everything you've read about Vista DRM is wrong (Part 2)
> [..]
>
> Everything you've read about Vista DRM is wrong (Part 3)
> [..]
>

Carey Frisch,

Well, I do read ZDnet on a regular basis.
(Mostly when I receive in my inbox subjects like: "Martians attacked
Linux conference!", and I am in need of a break.)

ZDnet used to be a reasonable reliable source of information years ago.
I am not sure what happened lately over there (and I am sure it involves
$), but to quote bloggers like Ed Bott as a reliable source of
information...

Peter Guttmann is a researcher (Department of Computer Science at the
University of Auckland) and has nothing to gain with spreading FUD.
His article contains references, many examples, and what is more: You
must know very little about encryption/decryption to think this comes
for free.

And what is more important in my humble opinion, M$ decided to protect
direct access to hardware (read the part "Elimination of Open-source
Hardware Support").

You can shout all you want about Guttman being an idiot, Vista being the
best OS ever, etc, but that won't convince any informed person with a
little experience in the field.

But I guess your signature says it all:
------------------------------------
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows Desktop Experience -
Windows Vista Enthusiast
------------------------------------

I have seriously NO problem with the fact you fell in love with Vista.
Really, that is your own hobby/job/whatever, but please don't spread
misinformation in public groups and present it like facts.

I hate DRM. Let that be very clear: DRM sucks.
I bought perfectly legal CDs from Sony, only to find they had a corrupt
filesystem that made it impossible to play on my PC running a perfectly
legal OS.
(Then I tried my good old Redhat, but over there it filled my errorlog
with warnings about the corrupt filesystem.)
I ended up downloading my CDs from torrents, so I could play my CDs I
paid for on my computer!

Like it is now: DRM hits on the 'good users' while the majority of
peer-to-peer-filesharing users get working versions for free.

Nice effect. Really good thinking.
Talking about shooting yourself in the foot...

Screw DRM.
Make it work, or don't use it.

I will avoid Vista. I'll stick to 'old' XP and *nix serverside.

Regards,
Erwin Moller

Erwin Moller wrote:
[..]
> Nice effect. Really good thinking.
> Talking about shooting yourself in the foot...
>
> Screw DRM.
> Make it work, or don't use it.
>
> I will avoid Vista. I'll stick to 'old' XP and *nix serverside.
>
> Regards,
> Erwin Moller

Very incisive and well thought out post. Not one Vista fanboy will
understand it.

Alias

On Jun 17, 5:20 am, Erwin Moller
> Screw DRM.
> Make it work, or don't use it.
>
> I will avoid Vista. I'll stick to 'old' XP and *nix serverside.
>
> Regards,
> Erwin Moller

Agree:

Quite below on Vista Vs XP:

" Would you rather throw new hardware cycles at offsetting Microsoft's
code bloat and voracious appetite for CPU bandwidth, or at a tangible,
measurable improvement in application throughput and user
productivity? Enough said. "

Interesting statistics below.

[url down]

On Jun 17, 8:51 am, cheley_bonstel...@live.com wrote:
> On Jun 17, 5:20 am, Erwin Moller
>>
>
> Agree:
>
> Quite below on Vista Vs XP:
>
> " Would you rather throw new hardware cycles at offsetting Microsoft's
> code bloat and voracious appetite for CPU bandwidth, or at a tangible,
> measurable improvement in application throughput and user
> productivity? Enough said. "
>
> Interesting statistics below.
>
> [..]

thanks for the link.
i'm in the market for a new laptop and have been looking for one with
XP.
i feel better about my decision now.

On Jun 17, 9:12 am, mcnews <mcour> wrote:
> On Jun 17, 8:51 am, cheley_bonstel...@live.com wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
> thanks for the link.
> i'm in the market for a new laptop and have been looking for one with
> XP.
> i feel better about my decision now.

Good to hear

I'm tired of my friends who've gotten hosed by Vista not being able to
do the simplest thing with Vista.
Worse, they think it's them, and have no problem with PDA's .

Vista is also driving people over to MAC and Linux Flavors


IMHO, Microsoft has done a great disservice to the IT world in general
by Killing
Windows XP.

- SO , get it while you can.

Talk about ill-informed! You're brainwashed.
"Alias" <iamalias> wrote in message
news:e193
[..]

Unknown wrote:
> Talk about ill-informed! You're brainwashed.

And do you think you convince anyone with this unfounded insult?

Alias
[..]

"Milt" <netrage> wrote in message
news:8faf
> Canuck57 wrote:
>>
>> In fact, with Ubuntu you can use a new open format not available to
>> Microsoft, OOG.
>>
>
> I'm going to guess you meant OGG, which is easily available in Windows.
>
> You really should check on these things before you spout off BS.
>
> Oh wait, that is what you do, carry on.

My typo and my error. Looks like someone has produced a Microsoft Media
plug-in. Have to watch open source, it makes it everywhere in due time.

<cheley_bonstell88> wrote in message
news:6ee4
On Jun 17, 5:20 am, Erwin Moller
> Screw DRM.
> Make it work, or don't use it.
>
> I will avoid Vista. I'll stick to 'old' XP and *nix serverside.
>
> Regards,
> Erwin Moller

Agree:

Quite below on Vista Vs XP:

" Would you rather throw new hardware cycles at offsetting Microsoft's
code bloat and voracious appetite for CPU bandwidth, or at a tangible,
measurable improvement in application throughput and user
productivity? Enough said. "

Interesting statistics below.

[url down]

-----
That was a good article. Good find.

On Jun 17, 6:12 am, mcnews <mcour> wrote:
> On Jun 17, 8:51 am, cheley_bonstel...@live.com wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
> thanks for the link.
> i'm in the market for a new laptop and have been looking for one with
> XP.
> i feel better about my decision now.

Or try a laptop with Linux. Or a Mac. See
http://pogue.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/...cintosh-surge/