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I have a home network with 2 XP desktops and 1 Vista laptop (Windows Vista
Business + SP1). I can access one od the desktops and his connected printer. I cannot access the other desktop (XP Professional, version 2002, SP2) nor the connected printer. I followed all the instructions in bb727037 and searched this forum for solutions. I can ping the desktop, but typing Start/Network and doubleclicking the desktopname always follows the message 'geen toegand tot \\MC2762' (no access to \\MC2762, i.e. the desktop name). The only thing I didn't examine are possibilities around Guest-accounts. Can anybody give me good advise. Thanks in advance. Arne, Amstelveen, Holland |
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Arne wrote:
> I have a home network with 2 XP desktops and 1 Vista laptop (Windows Vista > Business + SP1). I can access one od the desktops and his connected > printer. I cannot access the other desktop (XP Professional, version 2002, > SP2) nor the connected printer. I followed all the instructions in > bb727037 and searched this forum for solutions. I can ping the desktop, > but typing Start/Network and doubleclicking the desktopname always follows > the message 'geen toegand tot \\MC2762' (no access to \\MC2762, i.e. the > desktop name). The only thing I didn't examine are possibilities around > Guest-accounts. Can anybody give me good advise. Thanks in advance. > Arne, Amstelveen, Holland Problems sharing files between computers on a network are generally caused by 1) a misconfigured firewall or overlooked firewall (including a stateful firewall in a VPN); or 2) inadvertently running two firewalls such as the built-in Windows Firewall and a third-party firewall; and/or 3) not having identical user accounts and passwords on all Workgroup machines; 4) trying to create shares where the operating system does not permit it. A. Configure firewalls on all machines to allow the Local Area Network (LAN) traffic as trusted. With Windows Firewall, this means allowing File/Printer Sharing on the Exceptions tab. Normally running the Network Setup Wizard on XP will take care of this for those machines.The only "gotcha" is that this will turn on the XPSP2 Windows Firewall. If you aren't running a third-party firewall or have an antivirus with "Internet Worm Protection" (like Norton 2006/07) which acts as a firewall, then you're fine. With third-party firewalls, I usually configure the LAN allowance with an IP range. Ex. would be 192.168.1.0-192.168.1.254. Obviously you would substitute your correct subnet. Do not run more than one firewall. DO NOT TURN OFF FIREWALLS; CONFIGURE THEM CORRECTLY. B. For ease of organization, put all computers in the same Workgroup. This is done from the System applet in Control Panel, Computer Name tab. C. Create matching user accounts and passwords on all machines. You do not need to be logged into the same account on all machines and the passwords assigned to each user account can be different; the accounts/passwords just need to exist and match on all machines. DO NOT NEGLECT TO CREATE PASSWORDS, EVEN IF ONLY SIMPLE ONES. If you wish a machine to boot directly to the Desktop (into one particular user's account) for convenience, you can do this. The instructions at this link work for both XP and Vista: Configure Windows to Automatically Login (MVP Ramesh) - http://windowsxp.mvps.org/Autologon.htm D. If one or more of the computers is XP Pro or Media Center, turn off Simple File Sharing (Folder Options>View tab). E. Create shares as desired. XP Home does not permit sharing of users' home directories or Program Files, but you can share folders inside those directories. A better choice is to simply use the Shared Documents folder. Malke |
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Thanks Malke for you quick answer, but ...:
A. On the XP desktop only Windows Firewall is running. File/Printer Sharing on the Exception tab is allowed. Not third party firewall, only Virusprotection: Trend Micro OfficeScan Client for Windows. B. All computers were on the same workgroup: WORKGROUP (for simplicity) D. Simple File Sharing was on. I putted it off. Even after restart no solution. C. I created the 2 most important equal accounts and passwords on both machines. (The Vista laptop has another 3 accounts, which are not used). E. I creates already shared folders. I still get the error message: No Access. Errorcode: 0x80070035. Answer on 'determining problem': 'De aanvraag kan niet aab de DNS-server worden verzonden en de naam is onbekend bij de server': 'De request cannot be send to the DNS-server and the name is unknown to the server'. I think the use of the word AND here is peculiar. The Vista laptop is protected by McAfee firewall choosing 'all access granted'. What now? Regards Arne "Malke" wrote: [..] |
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Arne wrote:
> Thanks Malke for you quick answer, but ...: > A. On the XP desktop only Windows Firewall is running. File/Printer > Sharing on the Exception tab is allowed. Not third party firewall, only > Virusprotection: Trend Micro OfficeScan Client for Windows. > B. All computers were on the same workgroup: WORKGROUP (for simplicity) > D. Simple File Sharing was on. I putted it off. Even after restart no > solution. > C. I created the 2 most important equal accounts and passwords on both > machines. (The Vista laptop has another 3 accounts, which are not used). > E. I creates already shared folders. > I still get the error message: No Access. Errorcode: 0x80070035. Answer on > 'determining problem': 'De aanvraag kan niet aab de DNS-server worden > verzonden en de naam is onbekend bij de server': 'De request cannot be > send to the DNS-server and the name is unknown to the server'. I think the > use of the word AND here is peculiar. > The Vista laptop is protected by McAfee firewall choosing 'all access > granted'. Uninstall McAfee. Uninstall TrendMicro. Now try. If it works, replace both those rather dreadful programs with something better. Recommended antivirus programs are NOD32, Kaspersky, Avira, or Avast. The Windows Firewall is adequate for most people. Malke |
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I followed your advise: Unistalled Trend Micro from the desktop, uninstalled
McAfee from the laptop. I also made the user accounts exactly the same on desktop and laptop (6 accounts) and I allowed on both a Guest account. Restarted both. Despite all the problem persists. "Malke" wrote: [..] |
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Arne wrote:
> I followed your advise: Unistalled Trend Micro from the desktop, > uninstalled McAfee from the laptop. > I also made the user accounts exactly the same on desktop and laptop (6 > accounts) and I allowed on both a Guest account. > Restarted both. > Despite all the problem persists. Then I'm sorry, but without being able to see the computers I can't help further. I suggest you get a computer professional on-site. Someone who knows what they're doing can usually pinpoint these issues very quickly while someone who doesn't have hands-on can't. Normally setting up such as small network takes only a few minutes. I don't recommend using a BigComputerStore/GeekSquad type of place. I'm sorry that I was unable to help you. Malke |
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Thanks anyway.
I hope somebody else takes over to help me. "Malke" wrote: [..] |
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On Wed, 20 Aug 2008 13:53:09 -0700, Arne
<Arne> wrote: >Thanks anyway. >I hope somebody else takes over to help me. I think you'd better follow her advice. She makes her living fixing computers. [..] |
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Thanks again to Microsoft for not making a GUI setting for an option
that causes home networking to not work correctly!! anyway read what this guy has to say: http://www.richardcleaver.com/?p=15 the short of it is if the setting of your DHCP NodeType is set to 2 then your home (workgroup, no DNS server) networking will never work correctly. You can check it by typing ipconfig /all at the command prompt and you will see: Windows IP Configuration Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : Computername Primary Dns Suffix. . . . . . . . . . . . . . : NODE TYPE[/B] . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : PEER-TO-PEER ... IF THE NODE TYPE IS PEER-TO-PEER IT WILL NOT WORK!!! TO RESET IT TO BROADCAST OR HYBRID OR ONE OF THE OTHER ONES THAT WORKS, YOU NEED TO CHANGE 2 KEYS IN THE REGISTRY. START > RUN > REGEDIT FIND THE KEY(S): [B]HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CURRENTCONTROLSET\SERVIC ES\NETBT\PARAMETERS - DhcpNodeType - NodeType These are the 2 key names if either exist, and are set to 2 then you are screwed... you can delete the keys which will set them to default of 1... or you can set them to (1 or 4 or 8) any of which should work... The NodeType one if existing will override the DhcpNodeType one which is set automatically upon joining certain networks (hence the problem). Also after changing the value you need to restart for it to take effect. Read the link I put to Richard Cleaver's blog, that explains the settings in detail. Hope to help. |
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