I'm thinking of going back to Linux on a PC for Firewalls
(I know what you are saying)
But I remember using Smoothwall and thinking wow this is cool.

I have yet to set up a Untangle Box, Just wondering if someone has one
running or has bought a untangle device?

Thanks
Russ

"Russ (www.SBITS.Biz)" <support> wrote in message
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> I'm thinking of going back to Linux on a PC for Firewalls
> (I know what you are saying)
> But I remember using Smoothwall and thinking wow this is cool.
>
> I have yet to set up a Untangle Box, Just wondering if someone has one
> running or has bought a untangle device?
>


I've been using it while testing SBS 2008. I have Server 2008 with just the
Hyper-V role with Untangle and SBS 2008 in child partitions. As this is a
test environment it's hard to say what performance would be like in the real
world. From what I've seen so far I think this would be a viable one box
solution with dual Xeons and lots of RAM. My test box only has a dual core
Athlon and 8GB of RAM. It is definitely underpowered for this. Even so it
could handle a small network of ten or less workstations if SQL isn't
involved. I also haven't been able to test how it handles a significant
email load. Once SBS 2008 RTMs I plan to setup a proper server with the same
configuration and migrate my SBS 2003 domain to it. I'm happy enough with
Untangle that I want to test it in real word situation. On it's own box I
think it would easily be able to handle any traffic SBS could throw at it.

Russ, I first heard about Untangle a couple of months ago in one of your
posts ;) I decided to give it a go and it is working very well in my small
office with 10 users. I'm running it on a Dell SC440 with 2 GB ram, onboard
NIC and a Intel Pro dual NIC. This is a fairly inexpensive setup and I
believe it is way overkill for the number of users and load that I have. I
have a 15MB/1.5 MB connection and bandwidth is not affected at all (I have
all modules turned on except the spam module). I've seen people on their
forums reporting using it with many hundreds of users.



I ended up using the Pro (paid) version to take advantage of the AD
integration which works well. I setup multiple "racks" to enforce per user
web filtering/access policies. Unfortunately you cannot setup policies based
on user groups, you have to go user by user.



Also, "Live Support" is included with the $25 monthly fee. I called several
times during my initial setup and each time I called the Untangle support
was fantastic. They answered immediately and were able to help me with my
setup. If you want you can also turn on the remote support module so that
tech support can remote in to the Untangle box to help out.



One of my concerns regarding using Untangle is what would happen if one of
the programmers for one of the modules decides to go commercial, would
Untangle have to remove that module? Or what would happen if Untangle is
bought out by, say, Sonicwall? I read an article where one of the Untangle
founders say they have received buy-out overtures from unnamed big name UTM
vendors. I doubt Untangle would continue if that happened.



-Dave





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downloaded the Utangle VM the other night.
My little test so far, it seems it could be a good solution for some
options like the spam filter and proxy.
The interface looks easy. The forums look pretty active also.
Looking at the few video's it seems interesting.

side note:
We have been using PFSense while and have been very happy with it.
(Not sure if you have looked at that one)

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DV Technical Solutions Inc.
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Russ (www.SBITS.Biz) wrote:
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comment:

somehow I came across pfSense in the process of reading this thread, and
possibly stuff from another forum, (I was not previously aware of it).
Looking at the description has made me download the beast.

"Joseph Vito Bacino Jr." <no-email> wrote in message
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I don't want to hijack Russ's thread

But yes, It had been very nice.
I took a look a long time ago and did not try it (for what ever reason)
Saw Many people on a Asterisk forum mention PFSense...so i thought i
would try.

Here is an interesting post on how users have used PFSense...
(two being Foxnews.com and Foxbusiness.com)which was cool...

http://forum.pfsense.org/index.php/topic,7668.0.html

Sorry Russ...

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DV Technical Solutions Inc.
www.dvtechsolutions.com

SuperGumby [SBS MVP] wrote:
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PFSense WOW another one
Looking at the images it looks similar to SmoothWall
(What's nice is it's low min requirements so you can grab any old PC)

What I'm interested in the content filter and spam
(OpenDNS is a good content filtering)
but I have people that want to go by USER
(Example Shipping doesn't need any search engines)

Thanks Guys a lot of good information from you all

Russ

it's ok
it looks similar to SmoothWall Express.
(Simple clean with logs)

Better logs than most Firewall especially when it comes to Retention.

:)

Russ

Few things Just off that bat..
here is a "FAQ" with some info...
http://forum.pfsense.org/index.php/topic,7001.0.html
some nice Tutorials:
http://doc.pfsense.org/index.php/Tutorials

Quick Notes:
The ISO you install on a pc can use packages (Squid, SquidGaurd)
The embedded image, you can not use packages.

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DV Technical Solutions Inc.
www.dvtechsolutions.com

Russ (www.SBITS.Biz) wrote:
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I have 3 UT boxes (not VMs) installed at clients. It works very well. You
can't beat 14 free open source apps including antivirus and antispam.

Steve

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THAT's What I'm thinking :)

Thanks
Russ

Kerry can you describe how you setup the network adapters in Hyper-V so that
Untangle recognized them properly? I've done the install but can't get the
NICs configured using legacy adapters.

"Kerry Brown" <kerry*a*m> wrote in message
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Dave wrote:
>
> One of my concerns regarding using Untangle is what would happen if one of
> the programmers for one of the modules decides to go commercial, would
> Untangle have to remove that module? Or what would happen if Untangle is
> bought out by, say, Sonicwall? I read an article where one of the Untangle
> founders say they have received buy-out overtures from unnamed big name UTM
> vendors. I doubt Untangle would continue if that happened.
>The packages can never disappear. If by means of a lot of cooperation,
(many co-authors and maintainers in most cases) one were taken
closed-licence, that would not affect the existing versions. Someone
would then continue development of the last free version, as all the
packages are important, heavily-used ones. Only obsolete OS packages
ever get abandoned.

What happens to the whole thing depends on the licence of the system
software. If that's GPL or equivalent, then the same applies, anyone can
pick up the existing version and run with it. If it's something people
still want, someone will. The GPL and its derivatives were specifically
designed to prevent rights purchase and withdrawal of software.

I would assume the extras in the Pro version are proprietary, but if
there's demand, many people should be capable of cloning them. The OS
package Samba has long had PDC capabilities, so basic AD operation is
understood.

"SteveB" <newsgroup> wrote in message
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> Kerry can you describe how you setup the network adapters in Hyper-V so
> that Untangle recognized them properly? I've done the install but can't
> get the NICs configured using legacy adapters.
>


They just worked out of the box for me. I have installed Untangle several
times and never had a problem with it recognising the NICs. I'm not where I
can get at that computer right now but I do remember a glitch in the
Untangle network configuration screen where it shows the NICs as not
connected even though they were working fine. I just ignored what it said on
the screen and configured the NICs.

A UTM Comparison
http://www.foundationstech.com/techn...utm-comparison

I met the Calyptix guys at the SBSMigration conference in New Orleans and
was quite impressed. They'll be at SMBNation if you're going to that, Russ.


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