I have WSUS 2.0 that came installed on a 2003 SBS R2 server. It is installed
on C: and has consumed all the available space on the boot drive.

I would like to upgrade this to WSUS 3.0 SP1 and move the location of the
files from C: to D: where there is much more space.

Can this be done in one step?

I can get into the WSUS 2.0 management console from the main SBS management
screen but can't get to it or manage it from the Administrator Tools menu.
It appears that there are many updates that need to be accepted or rejected
but I can't seem to get to the screens to do this.

Is this something that will need to be resolved before the upgrade to 3.0 SP1?

Thanks,

Gary Drost

NO you do not Upgrade 2.0 to 3.0 on SBS2003

It's a SIDE By Side Installation Or you will break things

Installing Windows SharePoint Services 3.0 on a Server Running Windows Small
Business Server 2003
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en

And you will not be able to get into Sharepoint 3.0 from the 2.0 Console
3.0 has it's own console

You will also have to Manually Add users. (The wizard will not add users to
the 3.0 site.)
If you want external access you will also need to set up the SSL Cert with
your IIS Site
and Some other Configuration with Search path in WSS 3.0

You will not have the Fax to Sharepoint ability
(I'm unaware of a fix for this myself)

Plus you'd have to migrate/move the Database over to 3.0
This is not a one step process

But Do NOT Upgrade 2.0 to 3.0 on a SBS2003
Your server will be in a "UNSUPPORTED" Configuration.

Russ

Hi Gary:

Not a simple fix, I'm afraid.

If your installation of WSUS 2.0 is part of the R2 Technolgies of SBS 2003,
there is no direct uninstall for WSUS 2 as part of R2. You would have to
remove all of R2, then reinstall it.

IMO, you should clean up your C drive, and create more space before you try
to change anything else. There are several possibilities, including running
the cleanup programs as found here:

http://www.wsuswiki.com/MowingtheGrass

which tells you how to remove unwanted updates using wsusutil.exe, and then
shrink the data base, using WSUSDebugTool

Either you can move the databases, or you can remove the R2 and reinstall,
with or without WSUS 2.

I would suggest that you look at the following document and verify that you
are able to move the WSUS 2 database to another location.

How to move SQL Server databases to a new location by using Detach and
Attach functions in SQL Server.
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/224071

Once you get this moved, you can determine the best route forward. Most
folks would prefer to upgrade to WSUS 3 Service Pack 1, which is the current
version, per this document:
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l...91(WS.10).aspx

You can get the entire story here:
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/wsus/default.aspx

-Larry

"Gary Drost" <GaryDrost> wrote in message
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Larry:

Thanks for the info. I did discover that there was no discernable way to
uninstall WSUS 2.0. I also didn't see a way to turn it off other than to
stop and disable the services.

I would prefer to clean up the data that is there and then move the data to
the large drive rather than updating on this server. I sure didn't realize
that this was going to be such a hog when it started.

So, if I installed WSUS 3.0, is there any other good way to turn off WSUS 2.0?

Thanks for the information,

Gary

"Larry Struckmeyer [SBS-MVP]" wrote:
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Russ:

I suspected that that was the case since I couldn't see a way to uninstall it.

Adding users and downloading updates again is not a problem - I really need
to resolve the lack of space issue on C: in the easiest fashion that I can.
I will look at cleaning up the data that is currently there and look for the
best way to migrate the remaining data to the larger drive.

Thanks,

Gary

"Russ (www.SBITS.Biz)" wrote:
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Sorry Im reading WSS 2.0 and WSS 3.0

Look what Larry wrote
Basically you Break WSUS 2.0 and have WSUS 3.0 take over.

I didn't see the "U"

:(
Russ

WHOOOAAA, not exactly one step but...

Yes, you can change the location of the update file store. (if that's what
is consuming your space)

You should be able to find the 'wsuscontent' folder and move (move keeps
perms, copy doesn't) it to your D: drive, say to D:\WSUS. Note that I mean
to move the whole WSUSCONTENT folder, this means you will eventually have
the content files in D:\WSUS\WSUSCONTENT. It may be (is probably) necessary
to stop the Update Services and BITS services to allow this.

Restart the system and it will start downloading the files again, but we're
going to hopefully stop that. If we can't you can stop, and possibly
disable, the BITS Service, all downloads into WSUS happen through BITS. This
should allow you access to the standard WSUS console but stop the downloads,
whereas if we stop the Update Services service you will not be able to
access the console.

Hopefully, after the restart, you can get into the normal (non SBS) WSUS2
console and adjust the location of the file store. This is where it's
important that above you define the right path (D:\WSUS) because the path in
the interface actually represents the _parent folder_ to WSUSCONTENT.

"Gary Drost" <GaryDrost> wrote in message
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Hi Gary,

Thanks for your post and others' great suggestions.

As supplement, just for your reference, the following articles may be of
some help:

Moving Data Folders for Windows Small Business Server 2003
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l...31(WS.10).aspx

Specifying Where to Store the Updates
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l...92(WS.10).aspx

WSUS: How to change the location where WSUS stores updates locally
[url down]
ion-where-wsus-stores-updates-locally.aspx

Have a good day.


Best regards,
Robbin Meng(MSFT)

Microsoft CSS Online Newsgroup Support

Get Secure! - http://www.microsoft.com/security/

SG

That is exactly what is taking up all the space on the boot drive.

Do you know if the path defined in the normal WSUS2 console is changed in a
menu selection (i.e. Tools | Options) or is it a registry change?

If I stopped the BITS service as it stands right now, do you think that it
would allow me to get to the normal WSUS2 console?

Thanks for the info,

Gary

"SuperGumby [SBS MVP]" wrote:
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Robbin:

Thanks for the links. I have seen the first one but not the other two. I
will print them out and look into the wsusutil option.

Do you know if the WSUS2 version that comes as part of the SBS 2003 R2
installation has all the standard tools already installed or will I have to
find and install these before they will be available?

I guess it makes sense that since SBS is a "package" that you don't have an
uninstall option for WSUS but it's still a bit frustrating.

Thanks,

Gary

""Robbin Meng [MSFT]"" wrote:
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Hi Gary:

Of the tools actually mentioned so far:

<snip>
http://www.wsuswiki.com/MowingtheGrass

which tells you how to remove unwanted updates using wsusutil.exe, and then
shrink the data base, using WSUSDebugTool
<endsnip>

wsusutil.exe is native to WSUS 2, but WSUSDebugTool has to be downloaded.

-Larry


"Gary Drost" <GaryDrost> wrote in message
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stopping the bits service alone is unlikely to solve the problem, BITS
really only looks after the actual file transfer into WSUS. Your failure to
get into the console is _most_ probably related to the C: drive's lack of
space.

We need to get the WSUS console working in order to change the location of
the file store. In the (non SBS) WSUS console it's in the options area. Once
the console is functional and the OS partition has sufficient space I'd
maybe leave it a couple of days and then upgrade to WSUS3.

"Gary Drost" <GaryDrost> wrote in message
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Hi Gary,

Thanks for response.

Yes, WSUS 2.0 is a part of R2 components, and cannot be removed separately
unless you uinstall R2 from Add/Remove programs.

Regarding WSUSutil.exe, it is a tool that you can use to manage your WSUS
server from the command line. WSUSutil.exe is located in the
%drive%\Program Files\Update Services\Tools folder on your WSUS server. You
can run specific commands with WSUSutil.exe to perform specific functions,
as summarized in the following table. The syntax you would use to run
WSUSutil.exe with specific commands follows the table. More information,
please see:

Managing WSUS from the Command Line
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l...66(WS.10).aspx


Related article:

Migrating Windows Small Business Server 2003 to New Hardware
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l...54(WS.10).aspx


Hope it helps and have a good day.


Best regards,
Robbin Meng(MSFT)

Microsoft CSS Online Newsgroup Support

Get Secure! - http://www.microsoft.com/security/

Larry:

I will be making my first run at this today and will see what occurs. I
will see if cleaning out the database and shrinking it allows the WSUS
consoles to function better.

I will post results.

Gary

"Larry Struckmeyer [SBS-MVP]" wrote:
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Robbin:

Thanks for the continued information. I will be working on this today and
see what happens.

Gary Drost

""Robbin Meng [MSFT]"" wrote:
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