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 #1  
05-23-05, 10:06 PM
Wibur Post
John Dvorak writes an article calling the Linux advocates crazy and
what happens?
They react EXACTLY like he claims, this proving his point.

http://www.priomh.com/comments.php?id=P107_0_1_0

http://linux.slashdot.org/linux/05/0...&tid=1&tid=106

So explain to me why on earth I should move my business of my Macs and
Windows machines onto an operating system that seems to be promoted by
wackos, crazies and nuts?

When I first started with Apple systems, I was warned that the Apple
community was a bit zealous in advocating their platform, but over the
years I have found the Apple users to be friendly, helpful and rarely
nasty and crazy.

The Linux community?

They are a buch of nutjobs as a whole.
Take a look a /. or comp.os.linux.advocacy for a couple of days to see
how rabid and crazy they are.

Sorry, but Linux will NEVER get near any of my systems and when my
friends mention Linux to me I simply point them to COLA or /. and let
them decide for themselves.
It takes about 1 day for them to see what kind of wacks are behind the
Linux movement and they move on.
 #2  
05-23-05, 10:12 PM
7
Wibur Post wrote:

> John Dvorak writes an article calling the Linux advocates crazy and
> what happens?
> They react EXACTLY like he claims, this proving his point.



Who cares?
 #3  
05-23-05, 10:31 PM
Wibur Post
7 schreef:
> Wibur Post wrote:
>
> > John Dvorak writes an article calling the Linux advocates crazy and
> > what happens?
> > They react EXACTLY like he claims, this proving his point.
>> Who cares?


You do have a point.
But based upon Linux's dismal desktop marketshare, I would have to
conclude that not many desktop users care about Linux.
All I am saying is that Dvorak writes and article accusing the Linux
community of being rabid maniacs and they react exactly like he claims.
IOW they prove his point totally.
You would think they would be a little more shrewd.
But then again the average 15 year old, ie: the typical anti-social,
Linux misfit, hasn't learned very much yet.
 #4  
05-23-05, 10:46 PM
ray
On Mon, 23 May 2005 14:06:11 -0700, Wibur Post wrote:

> John Dvorak writes an article calling the Linux advocates crazy and
> what happens?
> They react EXACTLY like he claims, this proving his point.
>
> [..]
>
> [..]
>
> So explain to me why on earth I should move my business of my Macs and
> Windows machines onto an operating system that seems to be promoted by
> wackos, crazies and nuts?


If you don't want to, then don't - I really don't give a shit. Linux is
all about choice and it happens to work for me. There can, indeed, be
overriding reasons not to switch - the choice is yours.

>
> When I first started with Apple systems, I was warned that the Apple
> community was a bit zealous in advocating their platform, but over the
> years I have found the Apple users to be friendly, helpful and rarely
> nasty and crazy.
>
> The Linux community?
>
> They are a buch of nutjobs as a whole.


I'm sorry, you'll have to define 'buch' for me - I'm not familiar with the
term.

> Take a look a /. or comp.os.linux.advocacy for a couple of days to see
> how rabid and crazy they are.
>
> Sorry, but Linux will NEVER get near any of my systems and when my
> friends mention Linux to me I simply point them to COLA or /. and let
> them decide for themselves.
> It takes about 1 day for them to see what kind of wacks are behind the
> Linux movement and they move on.


That's your decision, but at least you have a choice. Linux works for me,
and it also works for the local library where I've installed Linux on the
public access internet computers. Everyone is happy as a clam, and the
systems just continue to run, unlike prior times when MS was used for that
function.
 #5  
05-23-05, 10:55 PM
ray
On Mon, 23 May 2005 14:31:25 -0700, Wibur Post wrote:

>
> 7 schreef:
>
> You do have a point.
> But based upon Linux's dismal desktop marketshare, I would have to
> conclude that not many desktop users care about Linux.
> All I am saying is that Dvorak writes and article accusing the Linux
> community of being rabid maniacs and they react exactly like he claims.
> IOW they prove his point totally.
> You would think they would be a little more shrewd.
> But then again the average 15 year old, ie: the typical anti-social,
> Linux misfit, hasn't learned very much yet.


So, who made Dvorak God? He's right on target occasionally, and wrong a
lot of the time, just like the rest of us.
 #6  
05-23-05, 11:19 PM
7
Wibur Post wrote:

>
> 7 schreef:
>
> You do have a point.
> But based upon Linux's dismal desktop marketshare, I would have to
> conclude that not many desktop users care about Linux.
> All I am saying is that Dvorak writes and article accusing the Linux
> community of being rabid maniacs and they react exactly like he claims.
> IOW they prove his point totally.
> You would think they would be a little more shrewd.
> But then again the average 15 year old, ie: the typical anti-social,
> Linux misfit, hasn't learned very much yet.



Who cares?
There are never enough loons out there to knock down an emerging technology.
Those sad tossers all of them!
May be they should form a neo Luddite association?
and call themselves The Institute of Friggin Asswipes TIoFA (TM)
 #7  
05-23-05, 11:50 PM
ralph
Wibur Post wrote:

> You do have a point.
> But based upon Linux's dismal desktop marketshare, I would have to
> conclude that not many desktop users care about Linux.


But those that ARE using Linux on the Desktop are saving a TON of Money!

http://techupdate.zdnet.com/techupda...860180,00.html

Why be a closed minded lemming like Wibur Post and waist money because that
is what everyone else does? I'll think for myself and save a bunch of
MONEY!!
 #8  
05-24-05, 01:44 AM
Liam Slider
On Mon, 23 May 2005 14:06:11 -0700, Wibur Post wrote:

> John Dvorak writes an article calling the Linux advocates crazy and
> what happens?


He shows himself yet again to be a pathetic whiner with no real vision of
the future of technology?
 #9  
05-24-05, 01:54 AM
Liam Slider
On Mon, 23 May 2005 14:31:25 -0700, Wibur Post wrote:

> But based upon Linux's dismal desktop marketshare, I would have to
> conclude that not many desktop users care about Linux.


Dismal? 10% of total machines, and about 50% of all new systems? That's
not too dismal.
 #10  
05-24-05, 02:14 AM
Linønut
Wibur Post poked his little head through the XP firewall and said:

> John Dvorak writes an article calling the Linux advocates crazy and
> what happens?


You come along.

Know these idiots?

Michael Bright 212.56.128.254
groups-google.com
shlemiel_jay_metz 212.129.243.90
T.Relyea fake 213.35.59.12
Anna Banger 213.35.59.12
Louis Soto 213.35.59.12
Richard Hymen 213.35.59.12
Richard Greenblatt 213.35.59.12
Jarvis Ray 213.62.92.21
Gary Stewart 213.178.160.23 google
Evan Fielder 216.80.159.29
Peter ColonMan 216.106.132.66
Todd 216.128.74.205
athenanews.com
<bailo nym> 216.254.11.92
speakeasy.net
Susi SuSe 217.5.115.149
* Wibur Post 217.66.3.82 google
Vestan Pance 217.155.40.111
+ <ssh test from here> 218.244.240.195
Dr Balwinder ...
Santhosh Adiga 219.65.139.145 google
Ashish 219.198.184.69 google
Aftab Singh 220.65.103.124 google,
flatfish
Aquila Deus 220.134.2.20 google
maria quansett 221.8.13.171 google

* marks the OP
+ marks some idiot trying to logon to my system
 #11  
05-24-05, 02:17 AM
John Bailo
Wibur Post wrote:

> So explain to me why on earth I should move my business of my Macs and
> Windows machines onto an operating system that seems to be promoted by
> wackos, crazies and nuts?


I'M KOO KOO FOR COCOA PUFFS!!!

KOO KOO FOR COCOA PUFFS!!!
 #12  
05-24-05, 03:13 AM
Noah Roberts
Wibur Post wrote:
> John Dvorak writes an article calling the Linux advocates crazy and
> what happens?
> They react EXACTLY like he claims, this proving his point.


One time I called my girlfriend a stuck up twat and she then broke up
with me thus proving my point.
 #13  
05-24-05, 09:44 AM
programgeek
.....
I don't need to know much about linux to know it's not good. My
ignorance of linux is only because it's not made to be usable -- it's
just an environment programmers work on in hopes that one day it will
be brought to the glory of higher operating systems -- you know -- the
ones with a GUI and and programs that work.

God - for saying that -- I can get my ass kicked around here -- but
seriously, yeah sure, linux has X, and alot of nice programs, which
suck.

Fuck open office - Microsoft office is better -- Don't waste your
resources on open office when you could be programming a better OS that
everyone could use. But no. Linux is perfect the way it is. Kinda
perfect? Okay? Shitty?

You can put it any way you want -- either way -- as of now -- it's shit
because it's a bunch of code that's a pain in the ass to get working
correctly -- while with windows -- we pop an install cd in and things
work. All computers should be like that -- it's the POINT of it -- you
don't program a damn OS just so you have to do every last damn thing
yourself. That my friends, is why you fucking linux evangelists, is
and always will be, fucking morons. Don't get me wrong -- linux is fun
-- I've tried gentoo and ubuntu, mandrake, redhat (what is now fedora)
and they were fun, yes fun. I'm a nerd, it's my fetish to fuck around
with computers... But in terms of doing work -- eh. You CAN get by with
linux -- but really windows is the way to go.
 #14  
05-24-05, 12:38 PM
Linønut
programgeek poked his little head through the XP firewall and said:

> I don't need to know much about linux to know it's not good.


Wrong. You need experience with it to know anything about it. I use
both Linux and Windows heavily, and I find Linux a breath of fresh air.
I write code in both systems, and documents. The only real issues with
"Linux" are not operating system issues, but simple vendor lock-in
issues perpetrated by the master of vendor lock-in, Microsoft.

I left the crossposting in so that some rebuttal to your insane diatribe
is seen.
 #15  
05-24-05, 02:47 PM
Baruch
Wibur Post wrote:

> John Dvorak writes an article calling the Linux advocates crazy and
> what happens?
> They react EXACTLY like he claims, this proving his point.
>
> [..]
>[..]
>
> So explain to me why on earth I should move my business of my Macs and
> Windows machines onto an operating system that seems to be promoted by
> wackos, crazies and nuts?
>

So - keep your business on the machines you already have. I doubt that
Linus would mind. I certainly don't.

> When I first started with Apple systems, I was warned that the Apple
> community was a bit zealous in advocating their platform, but over the
> years I have found the Apple users to be friendly, helpful and rarely
> nasty and crazy.
>

So again - you sound like you're far happier with Apple and/or Microsoft
products. Why make any change, if it already works for you? Stick with
what you're comfortable with.


> The Linux community?
>
> They are a buch of nutjobs as a whole.


This is a sweeping (and incorrect) generalization. You have not spoken with
"the Linux community". At most, you have heard from a handful of people,
some of whom may have not pleased you. It is a fallacy to generalize from
a few instances, to the entire population. I submit that your sample is
highly skewed.

Also, if your subject line is any indication of how you presented yourself,
then you have contributed to the hostility by initiating a hostile
discourse.

> Take a look a /. or comp.os.linux.advocacy for a couple of days to see
> how rabid and crazy they are.
>

Well, by all means, feel free to unsubscribe from C.O.L.A., any time you
find it burdensome. But it seems to me that you're continuing to read and
post there, which suggests to me that your words and your behavior do not
agree. In other words, you speak with forked tongue...

> Sorry, but Linux will NEVER get near any of my systems and when my
> friends mention Linux to me I simply point them to COLA or /. and let
> them decide for themselves.


So, you base the merit of an operating system on the behavior of people on a
newsgroup? OK, then consider this: most child molesters use Windows. So
do most terrorists and drug dealers.

> It takes about 1 day for them to see what kind of wacks are behind the
> Linux movement and they move on.


Well, bye, then. I'm sure you'll enjoy Windows or Mac, or whatever. Don't
let the door hit you...

But the thing is, I expect to see you right back here, perhaps morphed yet
again... kind of makes me wonder about what you think is a good time, but -
different strokes for different folks, I guess. Have fun...

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