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09-12-08, 11:55 AM
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I have generally been using the PHP mail function for sending emails from
contact forms on websites, but have recently had problems with a lot of mails being delivered to junk/spam folders. I've tried loads of different headers, etc and almost every contact form on sites I've done is different. I think it's time I started standardising and using an SMTP class to send and wanted some advice from people. I'm looking at the Pear Mail package and wondering whether that would be ok, or should I just start rolling out phpmailer on all sites, in case I start to put mailing lists, etc. in the future. Basically, what do most of you do for contact/enquiry form emails? TIA Tom |
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#2
09-12-08, 12:03 PM
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On 12 Sep 2008, at 11:55, Tom Chubb wrote:
> I have generally been using the PHP mail function for sending > emails from > contact forms on websites, but have recently had problems with a > lot of > mails being delivered to junk/spam folders. > I've tried loads of different headers, etc and almost every contact > form on > sites I've done is different. > I think it's time I started standardising and using an SMTP class > to send > and wanted some advice from people. > I'm looking at the Pear Mail package and wondering whether that > would be ok, > or should I just start rolling out phpmailer on all sites, in case > I start > to put mailing lists, etc. in the future. > Basically, what do most of you do for contact/enquiry form emails? http://stut.net/blog/2008/06/18/sending-email/ -Stut |
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#3
09-12-08, 12:07 PM
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Tom Chubb wrote:
> I have generally been using the PHP mail function for sending emails from > contact forms on websites, but have recently had problems with a lot of > mails being delivered to junk/spam folders. > I've tried loads of different headers, etc and almost every contact form on > sites I've done is different. > I think it's time I started standardising and using an SMTP class to send > and wanted some advice from people. > I'm looking at the Pear Mail package and wondering whether that would be ok, > or should I just start rolling out phpmailer on all sites, in case I start > to put mailing lists, etc. in the future. > Basically, what do most of you do for contact/enquiry form emails? > TIA > > Tom > Hi Tom, Sorry to inform you about this. But it is a best practice (and my advice) to first search in any archive of a forum or mailinglist before asking a question regarding a subject. Sending mail via a scripting language (like PHP) is a very common subject. Therefore an anwser to your question should be somewhere in the archives. I'm pretty sure the last month this topic has been started 2 times. So, I suggest that you first go about searching in the archives (of this mailinglist for example) and if you can't figure it out, you come back. |
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#4
09-12-08, 12:20 PM
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2008/9/12 Aschwin Wesselius <aschwin>
[..] > I'm pretty sure the last month this topic has been started 2 times. > > So, I suggest that you first go about searching in the archives (of this > mailinglist for example) and if you can't figure it out, you come back. > -- > > Aschwin Wesselius > > *'What you would like to be done to you, do that to the other....'* > Aschwin, Thanks for your email. I do realise that and I read all messages through the list, and always STFW and RTFM before posting. However every person's requirements are different and I was asking for general personal opinions rather than solutions to a specific application. Obviously phpmailer is a very common solution as are Manuel Lemos' classes but these might be overkill to use on simple 1 page sites that only require a contact form. We all know that the php mail function is pretty dire so I wanted to know what most people do in their applications? I'm not looking for someone to give me the code or anything so please don't shoot me down! :) Cheers, Tom |
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#5
09-12-08, 12:22 PM
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2008/9/12 Stut <stuttle>
> On 12 Sep 2008, at 11:55, Tom Chubb wrote: >> [..] > > -Stut > > -- > [..] > Thanks -Stut, Very informative and I guessed what the first line would be before I clicked the link... If you're using PHP you want PHPMailer <http://phpmailer.sf.net/>. :) |
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#6
09-12-08, 01:26 PM
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Tom Chubb wrote:
> I have generally been using the PHP mail function for sending emails > from contact forms on websites, but have recently had problems with a > lot of mails being delivered to junk/spam folders. > I've tried loads of different headers, etc and almost every contact > form on sites I've done is different. > I think it's time I started standardising and using an SMTP class to > send and wanted some advice from people. > I'm looking at the Pear Mail package and wondering whether that would > be ok, or should I just start rolling out phpmailer on all sites, in > case I start to put mailing lists, etc. in the future. > Basically, what do most of you do for contact/enquiry form emails? Tom, I think you're groping in the dark. If your emails are ending up in junk or spam folders, you need to investigate that in detail. How you generate your email is largely irrelevant and has little or no bearing on whether it gets identified as spam or not. To answer your specific question, I use here-doc plus exec(sendmail). /Per Jessen, Zürich |
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#7
09-12-08, 01:35 PM
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> I use here-doc plus exec(sendmail).
Why? |
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#8
09-12-08, 01:57 PM
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Richard Heyes wrote:
>> I use here-doc plus exec(sendmail). > > Why? Using heredocs is probably habit, but it's also easy, and I like keeping the email template in the code. I use exec(sendmail) because it allows me to set the Return-Path. For purely internal stuff, I just as often use plain mail(). /Per Jessen, Zürich |
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#9
09-12-08, 02:00 PM
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> I use exec(sendmail) because it allows
> me to set the Return-Path. mail() does too. |
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#10
09-12-08, 02:14 PM
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Richard Heyes wrote:
>> I use exec(sendmail) because it allows >> me to set the Return-Path. > > mail() does too. > In <additional-parameters>? Yeah, I think I knew that, but for some reason I haven't been using it. I don't think it works in safe-mode or something like that. Or maybe it doesn't work in older (4.3,4.4) versions? /Per Jessen, Zürich |
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#11
09-12-08, 02:52 PM
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On Fri, 12 Sep 2008 11:55:03 +0100, Tom Chubb wrote:
>I have generally been using the PHP mail function for sending emails from >contact forms on websites, but have recently had problems with a lot of >mails being delivered to junk/spam folders. [...] If you don't end up using PHPMailer, make sure that you are setting these fields properly or SpamAssassin et al will suspect your emails as being SPAM. From: a valid (looking) email address Date: the send date in RFC-2822 format, date('r') Message-ID: <some unique ID> Content-Type: whatever is appropriate for your email (e.g. text/plain) Good idea: X-Mailer: 'PHP/' . phpversion() To test, send some emails to yourself at an account that has SpamAssassin and look at the headers to see what SpamAssassin says as it should indicate what it doesn't like about your emails. Try this first, before messing with the headers above. |
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#12
09-12-08, 03:05 PM
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2008/9/12 Ross McKay <rosko>
[..] > before messing with the headers above. > -- > Ross McKay, Toronto, NSW Australia > "You can't have egg bacon spam and sausage without the spam." - Pythons > > -- > PHP General Mailing List ([..]) > To unsubscribe, visit: [..] > Thanks Ross, I have read somewhere before about creating a message id with the date&time and a random number. Still I think I'm going to be ending up down the phpmailer route! T |
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#13
09-12-08, 04:46 PM
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Tom Chubb wrote:
> I have generally been using the PHP mail function for sending emails from > contact forms on websites, but have recently had problems with a lot of > mails being delivered to junk/spam folders. > I've tried loads of different headers, etc and almost every contact form on > sites I've done is different. > I think it's time I started standardising and using an SMTP class to send > and wanted some advice from people. > I'm looking at the Pear Mail package and wondering whether that would be ok, > or should I just start rolling out phpmailer on all sites, in case I start > to put mailing lists, etc. in the future. > Basically, what do most of you do for contact/enquiry form emails? > TIA > > Tom > I use Pear Mail, just because it's easy. And since using DomainKeys and SPF, I've not had any receiving servers, at least that I know of, mistake my emails as SPAM |
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#14
09-12-08, 05:59 PM
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> In <additional-parameters>? Yeah, I think I knew that, but for some
> reason I haven't been using it. I don't think it works in safe-mode or > something like that. Or maybe it doesn't work in older (4.3,4.4) > versions? Dunno, it's been over 4 1/2 years since I used PHP4. |
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#15
09-12-08, 06:00 PM
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At 12:03 PM +0100 9/12/08, Stut wrote:
>On 12 Sep 2008, at 11:55, Tom Chubb wrote: > >[..] > >-Stut -Stut: There you go again with your excellent, but damned annoying, articles. Please provide questionable advice every once in a while. :-) Cheers, tedd |
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