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#31
02-19-09, 06:56 PM
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In article <03db1c69-828a-4961-914d-62fe10ed88fb>,
Xah Lee <xahlee> wrote: <SNIP> [..] >Engineering=E2=80=9D, =E2=80=9CMaturity Models=E2=80=9D, =E2=80=9CManagemen= >t Information Systems=E2=80=9D, >=E2=80=9CIntegrated Project Support Environments=E2=80=9D =E2=80=9CObject O= >rientation=E2=80=9D and >=E2=80=9CBusiness Process Re-engineering=E2=80=9D (the latter three being k= >nown as >IPSE, OO and BPR, respectively).=E2=80=9D =E2=80=94 Edsger W Dijkstra (1930= >-2002), in >EWD 1175: The strengths of the academic enterprise. > A couple of weeks ago, a collegue of mine held a lecture about a company where he is hired, building paper-folding and envelope-handling machines. (We are hired hands). Real time, and real time simulators. Full regression tests after each change. Agile scrum all the way down. It looks impressive especially from where I stand. ( Formal procedures that take 6 months, and bad fixes because approved changes were no good after all.) So not dead by a margin, and less snake oil than most methodologies I know of. > Xah Groetjes Albert -- |
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#32
02-23-09, 12:56 PM
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On 19 Feb 2009 18:56:42 GMT, Albert van der Horst
<albert> wrote, quoted or indirectly quoted someone who said : >Note here, that eXtreme >>Programing is one of the snake oil, Extreme programming is a variant on Deming's idea of constant incremental improvement that revolutionised quality in manufacturing. It is also based on the obvious idea that you will be smarter after you have used some version of a program than you are today. There are so many computer programs perfectly compliant with specs that looked good on paper but nobody ever tested with actual use to refine them until the project was "complete" and it was too expensive to fix them. |
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#33
02-23-09, 03:54 PM
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On Feb 23, 4:56 am, Roedy Green <see_webs...@mindprod.com.invalid>
wrote: > On 19 Feb 2009 18:56:42 GMT, Albert van der Horst > <alb> wrote, quoted or indirectly quoted someone > who said : >> Extreme programming is a variant on Deming's idea of constant > incremental improvement that revolutionised quality in manufacturing. > > It is also based on the obvious idea that you will be smarter after > you have used some version of a program than you are today. There are > so many computer programs perfectly compliant with specs that looked > good on paper but nobody ever tested with actual use to refine them > until the project was "complete" and it was too expensive to fix them. 2009-02-09 Today, i happened to run across a blog on the eXtreme Programing FUCK. http://www.yosefk.com/blog/extreme-p...explained.html Great article! Xah $B-t(B http://xahlee.org/ |
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