Does Vista install CD (OEM Ult 32bit) have ICH10 sata drivers?

i.e. will it recognize my sata drives plugged into its ICH10 controller?

Looking at ASUS P5QC
I do/will not use Intel Matrix Storage Manager.
I do/will not use RAID.
I have 2 Hitachi Deskstar SATA drives - 500gb and 160gb. They will run IDE
during install (as opposed to AHCI).

Wondering if I can straight install or do I have to have the ASUS chipset
and sata drivers on a "floppy"?

tia!!!

Information you are looking for is in the Asus P5QC manual
http://support.asus.com/download/dow...-us&model=P5QC


"Kris" <a> wrote in message news:hdlg
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On Sun, 28 Sep 2008 22:33:25 -0500, Carey Frisch [MVP] wrote:

Yes, I had read that one line, however
1) it did not tell me that MakeDisk was self contained.
2) it did not tell me that it wouldn't work with a USB-floppy.
3) I looked at the Vista CD and it had ICHA... drivers (ICH10).

In any case, I connected my old floppy to my mobo and let it create output
to a couple of floppies and so hopefully that will be that.

So fie on lack of USB-floppy support.
Similar to fie on lack of AHCI support on bootable CDs like Acronis.

end of rant.
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Kris wrote:
> Does Vista install CD (OEM Ult 32bit) have ICH10 sata drivers?
>
> i.e. will it recognize my sata drives plugged into its ICH10 controller?
>Part A: Intel's ICHx drivers are usually found on Intel's motherboard site.
Part B: Will "what" recognize your SATA drives?. Last I looked, the
Vista Install media has no such ICH10 controller. Find that on your
motherboard. Find it's driver on the requisite motherboard install disk.
> Looking at ASUS P5QC
> I do/will not use Intel Matrix Storage Manager.
> I do/will not use RAID.
>
Stop here. No RAID, no need for SATA drivers.
> I have 2 Hitachi Deskstar SATA drives - 500gb and 160gb. They will run IDE
> during install (as opposed to AHCI).
>If your OS install media is provided by the OEM, such drivers are
usually included on a separate drivers disk, or should be.
> Wondering if I can straight install or do I have to have the ASUS chipset
> and sata drivers on a "floppy"?
>Vista does not require SATA drivers to install in IDE mode. ONLY if you
plan to use RAID do you need SATA drivers for your SATA drives.

You DO need your chipset drivers, which should have been supplied by the
OEM.
But not to install Vista. Afterward.

Donald L McDaniel

> Stop here. No RAID, no need for SATA drivers.

In addition to RAID and IDE mode, newer M/B (chipsets) also provide AHCI
mode which would need drivers if AHCI mode is being enabled in BIOS.




"Donald McDaniel" <orthocross> wrote in message
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xfile wrote:
> In addition to RAID and IDE mode, newer M/B (chipsets) also provide AHCI
> mode which would need drivers if AHCI mode is being enabled in BIOS.
>
While this is true, AHCI mode is reserved mostly for XP. Since this is
a Vista newsgroup, and you did mention that you did not plan on using
AHCI mode, I did not mention it.
If you plan on installing XP, then yes, you would need to install the
SATA drivers using F6 during the early part of installation, since they
are not on the XP installation media.

On Mon, 29 Sep 2008 01:14:09 -0700, xfile wrote:

>> Stop here. No RAID, no need for SATA drivers.
>
> In addition to RAID and IDE mode, newer M/B (chipsets) also provide AHCI
> mode which would need drivers if AHCI mode is being enabled in BIOS.
>>
>


LOL and yes and thanks - LOL at bunches of misinformation in previous and
post posts.

But this all takes us back to Carey's answer which is spot on and which I
had a problem with ONLY because it (ASUS MakeDisk program) didn't work with
my USB-floppy - revert back to my old floppy and it works just fine.

AHCI, with NCQ, and the like, is more important to Vista and ff opsyses,
(at the 5% improvement level) though if I were back on XP SP2 or 3, I would
use it there as well. I initially added it to my present Vista build as a
guess, but
http://expertester.wordpress.com/200...ark-advantage/
suggests there may be validity, and in any case, the only time it "hurts"
me is when I go to do a restore of my C partition and discover that the
stand alone Acronis program will not see my sata drives if they are under
AHCI - simple solution - for that boot, just change back to IDE, restore
the image, change back to AHCI, and off we go. In retrospect, I would
probably do this next install with AHCI turned on.

(for other readers, always initially flash your BIOS to the latest when
dealing with a relatively new-to-market mobo as the initial release
generally has memory/cpu recognition deficiencies, for ANY manufacturer)

"my OEM" is me. I build my own boxes. I stay very legal. I communicate
very well with myself!!!

I had thought that it would be necessary to have a driver floppy, but then
I spotted ICHa* drivers on my Vista install CD so I thought I'd ask.

Now that I have a floppy and spare of the ASUS drivers, it is all a moot
point, and cudos to ASUS for providing an updated version of its MakeDisk
program for that mobo, with the more recent drivers.

Okay, kiddies, that's it for me for this thread!

Always learning!!! And that's what's fun!

> While this is true, AHCI mode is reserved mostly for XP.

I have to say that I don't know AHCI (on hardware level) is reserved mostly
for XP, kindly point me to the source so I could study further. But you are
right that the OP didn't mention it, and I added it just for one additional
possibility.


"Donald McDaniel" <orthocross> wrote in message
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